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Episode 402: The Main Event: Production Orders vs Assembly Orders
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Jan. 21, 2025

Episode 402: The Main Event: Production Orders vs Assembly Orders

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Season 4 Business Central Partner

🥊💪 Welcome to the Main Event - Production Orders versus Assembly Orders  💪🥊

🧩 In this engaging conversation, the hosts, Kris and Brad, are joined by Jenn Claridge, who shares her extensive experience in the manufacturing sector, to discuss the differences between Production Orders and Assembly Orders in Microsoft Dynamics 365 Business Central. 🧩

Listen to the information-filled episode to learn about: 

👉🏽 The differences and similarities between Assembly Orders and Production Orders

👉🏽 When to use an Assembly Order or Production Order

👉🏽Approaches to Using Assembly Orders and Production Orders

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Chapters

00:01 - Isolation and Winter Blues

06:34 - Border Relations and Uniting Nations

10:18 - History and Nostalgia in Old Buildings

16:21 - Manufacturing ERP Systems and Orders

29:47 - Production Order Statuses and Capabilities

39:21 - Bill of Materials and Production Orders

48:25 - Tracking Assembly Orders and Inventories

55:13 - Production Order Flexibility and Efficiency

01:07:48 - Transitioning From Assembly to Production Orders

01:12:35 - Consulting, Travel, and Remote Work

01:19:03 - Exploring Cities During Business Travel

Transcript
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Welcome everyone to another episode of Dynamics, corner Brad.

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I need to build something.

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What's the best approach?

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I'm your co-host.

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Chris, and this is Brad.

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This episode was recorded on January 10th 2025.

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Chris, chris, chris, you build things.

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I didn't know you build things.

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Ikea tables.

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But that is a good question because within Business Central, did you know that you could use assembly orders and production orders?

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And with us today we had the opportunity to learn the differences between production orders and assembly orders and when you may want to use either one of those.

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With us today, we had the opportunity to speak with Jen Klarich.

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Hello, hello.

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Hello, good morning.

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How are things?

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Excellent, excellent.

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How about yourself?

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I'm good happy new year.

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You celebrate new year's up there that is a common one, yes, but I also do not really know the origin of that that of new year's, the canadian new year just in general.

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No idea, don't have any clue, no I have a little clue, and my clue is that it's a new year well, that like I, I guess.

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But who formalized it and when did they do that and where did it start?

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Start Like, tell me more, brad.

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I'm thirsty for the knowledge.

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Chris, help those are good questions Help us.

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But the other thing in honor of this conversation, we made it feel like Canada we're paying honor.

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We made it feel like Canada down here.

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Oh, because it is so cold.

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I don't know what to do.

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Yeah, you're just not leaving your home at any point.

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I'm embarrassed to say, but I didn't leave for the past two days.

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Wait, no, I did go out yesterday for a little bit Earlier in the week.

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Yeah, forget it, take that back.

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I am like contemplating my whole life at this point, because there's lots of times, because I work from home, that I don't leave for like four days or five days.

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So I'm now worried, like is is like glorophobia coming into play?

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Like am I like what's happening?

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Because if two days is a lot, well, don't you get excited though on the weekend so like you're coming on the weekend like you have Like what's happening Cause if two days is a lot.

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Well, don't you get excited though on a weekend, so like you're coming around the weekend, like you have to get out of the house, like I forced my family to get out of the house because define leaving the house define leaving the house when I when you say leaving the house, I mean literally stepping outside, because there are times where I'll go a whole entire week where I don't leave my property, but I do spend a lot of time outside so I'm at least getting the sunshine, fresh air, and I'll do yard stuff or I go running or walking or such.

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Well, I guess running leaves my property, but I'm saying physically not getting in the seas, it's, it's all I leave.

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We literally go somewhere.

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We go somewhere because it's like I'm here five days a week.

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I need to get out, and then we would either go to the next town over or find something like a little tiny museum, whatever that is just to get out of the house.

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Yeah, you do need those activities like the small town visits or doing something to step away.

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But not leaving the house during the week for me is very common, because it is a challenge.

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Working from home, because you get up, you do your routine or whatever.

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Maybe you work.

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Then at the end of the day it gets dark now because it's winter, and even down here it's dark, not as early as as you northerners, but when I'm here yeah, 4, 30 it's dark.

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You go to work basically in the dark yes, home in the dark, like you know, not quite as bad as like, say, alaska, but it's true, like at the end of the day, like I find that around my like 3.30, 4 o'clock meetings it's like the sun is going down.

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So by the end of the call at 5 o'clock I have like a little candle lit to be like okay, well, let's circle back is that?

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what is that what you have in canada?

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Just candles?

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no, no, you know, just for energy efficiencies and things.

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But we, it's like it gets progressively darker.

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But you know you're meeting to meeting so you haven't taken the time to just even go flick on a light so that when yes it does get darker.

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But then to your point, you're like, okay, now it's the end of the day, you go get into your you know pajamas, maybe your comfies oh, you never left your pajamas or maybe I do I do have jeans on I am somewhat professional okay, but uh, you know just I was nervous.

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I was gonna say it's not too crazy but, um, yeah, and then you, you know you have your dinner, you unwind.

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You, you know you have your dinner, you unwind, and before you know it, you're like, okay, well, it's time to trot up to bed.

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So but we have what I was saying like we have an old schoolhouse, we have a lot of, like wood burning fireplaces, so we'll go out a couple times a day to, like you know, grab extra pieces of wood and then, because we do rescue the feral cats, because we were going to talk about that, I have like an outbuilding where I segregate the feral cats from my indoor cats.

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So you know, we truck it.

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So I, I do brad, get the fresh air and the vitamin d, that's good, yeah, and that's good.

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The other challenge good though chris on the activity well, maybe you can start this week and take the cats out for a walk.

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Put a leash on them, put them in the car.

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Yeah, take your cat to the museum okay.

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So would you judge me, brad, if I said I already do that and, chris, excellent idea.

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I will jot that down I would not judge you because one I already do, because you're from canada, so that just supersedes any judging two yeah I think it would be good that you do something like that Three up north, because of the cold, dark and the wind, come 4.30, it feels like midnight.

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So I am right there with you.

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Come that time, I feel like just going to bed because it feels like it's so late.

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And then the other point yeah, and it's cold, oh it's miserable.

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That's why I'm like just going to bed, because it feels like it's so late.

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And then the other point yeah, and it's cold.

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Oh, it's miserable.

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That's why I'm here, but the cold came with me.

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I was going to say, though, you know, I feel like there's a really clear boundary with the US and Canada in your mind, right?

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It's called the border?

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Yeah, but she's from Canada, so she's on the wrong side of the tracks.

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Well, but isn't it a time to unite?

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You know like?

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are you saying you want to become?

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Are you saying you want to be a state?

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no, no, is this what you're saying?

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I'm saying why don't you come over to canada?

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It's a little cold, but I think you know, come over this way she said unite.

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I did that.

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I'm bringing politics into us.

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I am only giving you a hard time because I just like to no offense to canada, because people will probably be angry with me and chris put me up to it, but I think you should take Minnesota and Wisconsin and we'll just call it Okay.

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Okay, Really Like any special reason or just like as an olive branch we next in?

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are you going to be at two directions?

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Yes, yeah.

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Okay, when, uh when we have the meal.

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Chris, we owe her a meal, by the way.

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Um, just to let you know and we'll hold it to it and it will be part of our Canadian Thanksgiving that we're going to celebrate late.

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I'll give you the reasons why.

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I think, that those two states should become part of Canada.

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Oh so I have to wait.

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Suspense.

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The suspense.

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You have three months to wait.

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You can read up on those dates and you'll probably figure it out.

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I'll figure it out.

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So I have to actually come to the dinner and guess the reasons Right.

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Yes.

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Okay, fair enough.

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Don't be upset if dinner is one of those little street carts.

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That's fine, I'm not picky, I'm not saying we're going to one of these.

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We're not going to the michelin restaurant out in vegas.

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Uh, for this, this repayment that's fair.

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That's fair as long as it's not like a mcdonald's.

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You know streetcar, though, like I, don't I nothing.

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I was gonna say street meets fine, but let's edit that out.

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No, no listen listen.

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No, we're not editing that out, we're not.

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No, we have no filter.

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I will say, though, food trucks when I say a streetcar, I mean like one of the food trucks I.

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They're amazing.

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Some of those are absolutely amazing.

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Where it's?

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I will seek them out.

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And sometimes some venues or some places will have activities where they have multiple of those food trucks and I love that.

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That's one of the things I like to do on the weekends, for example, is if you go to these little, I don't call them fairs because they're not really fairs, but they call them like those fairs, no, but like a fest right, yes, or some event in that event where there may be, we'll have some food trucks, and I love it because I like to eat, but yeah we.

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We didn't want to talk about the weather or your desire to become a us citizen.

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Uh, next time there's no desire to be fair, there isn't.

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I love canada, you know are you born and raised in Canada?

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Born and raised.

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Yeah, Always in the Toronto area.

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Yeah, primarily just about like an hour kind of.

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I actually live in like the Cambridge Kitchener Waterloo area, which is an hour from Toronto, but it's also an hour from Niagara, where I live now.

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So I've always lived around here, but it's close to Buffalo so you know when I'm feeling itchy I can jump over the border.

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It's like a half an hour away.

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That's not bad.

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So you get the taste of the U?

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S.

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You're practically American.

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Sometimes, yeah, practically Right, yeah, dual citizenship.

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But I can like zip over and get things that you guys have that we don't like food products, stuff like that.

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Are you allowed to get a powerball, which is some food, some food you can't?

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no fruits, right, like limited in fruit I know coming into.

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Yes, you can't take certain types of fruits.

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I understand why because a lot of that is bugs, like a lot of the invasive species will come with foods.

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But I have not to jump around.

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I do have so many questions for you because yeah of your expertise.

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Uh, but you live in an old schoolhouse.

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Do you have like chalkboards and stuff on the wall?

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no, I don't, but not anymore, but it I do live in an old schoolhouse.

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So it's in 1883.

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So it's like amazing, like I love it.

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I love like just knowing that kids came here.

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People will stop by and say you know, I used to the the coal stove was here and I used to come in and I was the one that had to stoke the coal in the morning.

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Or you know, I used to come here.

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There's names etched into the brick of the kids who used to come.

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Like that, just for me, I love history I I like history.

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I love that nostalgic and that's amazing, I love that Nostalgic and historical.

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That's why I love Boston, because Boston has a lot of history, because it's the same type of thing there's a lot of in New England.

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There's a lot of old buildings, you know, back from the 1600s, 1800s, and you're like what fascinates me with that and you have to really think about it a lot of those buildings were made before tools, before electricity, right before lighting, and to see the construction of what they had put together.

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because they didn't have power tools and they didn't have a way to whip up these blades to cut the wood right, they had to.

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You know, if you really think what someone had to go through to build structures prior to technology, right, what do they call that error?

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Oh for sure, and their story too, like the people that you know put that together what they live, what their life was like.

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I love that stuff, chris.

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We'll have to make a field trip, it is.

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It's super cool.

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You should, if you're ever in the area like come on by, because it's super cool.

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Yeah, I love it If you're ever in the area like come on by.

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But we've done like some renovations just to kind of bring it to modern, like standards, like we put a heat line and stuff.

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But when you take down some of the walls, like some of the beams, you can tell they're, to your point, all entirely different Because they just found a beam that fit that space.

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So some are long, some are short, some are thin, whereas like now you know, you just cut the beans to the size you need and everything kind of fits perfectly in the, in the insulation there would be like newspaper or yes, just to your point.

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They just I think they call it a horsehair plaster and yeah, so they just used to your point like what they had what they had and what what could work, yeah, so it's been interesting to kind of do little projects here and there and then see like you said uncovering things.

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Yeah, my husband is convinced that one day we'll take down a wall and find just like a load of cash that is, just like some old person who like hit it and forgot.

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We have yet to find that, but other cool, interesting things we've found I want.

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I was just going to ask you found anything?

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interesting.

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I've been into old houses, old buildings and you find some great stuff yeah, like how to do things.

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I went to a place the other day.

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You know what I saw on the wall they had an old can opener, like the can opener that screwed into the wall and it kind of flapped out.

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I'm like this is like back from the 1950s 1940s.

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It's amazing it brings you back in time.

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Yeah, it's super cool it's great and life was much easier then, I believe yeah, I think there were challenges, they had separate challenges, don't get me wrong.

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I mean we have modern medicine, we have some conveniences, but with those conveniences also comes more time, responsibility, you know, focus and stuff.

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It's like simpler times, I would call it.

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Right.

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Like things were what they were, you accepted what they were.

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You weren't like always chasing the next thing.

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There was like a certain appreciation, I think, for what you had, whereas like now with technology and like social and stuff like that, I think people are always chasing something more.

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But I do find that, like you know, there was a woman actually.

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She came and she brought like all the pictures from when they converted it from a schoolhouse to a house and like just telling the stories and things like that.

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There was just like a lot of gratitude back then, you know they live in the moment, which is really nice.

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And I mean there were, it wasn't as much.

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I mean they did have crime, they did have other things.

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I don't want to say it was a time when, uh, when I'm going to the next thing perfect it wasn't perfect, but it was also very community.

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So if you could go to your neighbor and say hey, can you help me?

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build a barn right everybody have those barn raising parties.

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Yeah, ah man to be able to go back and see.

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Live in a small town.

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It's very similar.

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Everybody knows my neighborhood.

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Living in a small town is great, chris, as close as you can get and you live in a great area.

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I would like to live in Chris's deck, just live on his deck.

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I could live on his deck.

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Literally you could live on his deck.

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Oh, I want to see it.

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We'll have to do tours after this recording.

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We'll do, we'll do some house tours in the summer, though, because then oh yeah, it's kind of gloomy right now yeah, but we don't want to go outside that long now, no, no, but still, chris, even in the, in the area that you, the rural area that you live in, you still have like technology, you have the internet and yeah, that's a point everybody is.

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I do feel like everybody's always looking for the next best thing and not appreciating what they have and not.

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And then they realize they always want the next best best thing, because sometimes you already have the best thing, if you realize what I'm saying and yep sometimes you have to take a step back and say it is the best thing.

00:16:01.523 --> 00:16:09.246
All right, but enough of this I could talk about this we're getting deep we are.

00:16:09.246 --> 00:16:21.284
But before we jump into the conversation, would you mind telling us a little bit about yourself outside of the feral cats in the schoolhouse, and that you're from canada yeah, just like.

00:16:21.504 --> 00:16:40.576
So basically I've been in manufacturing since like forever like 20 years or so and I started off just as a basically hey, here's a filing cabinet and here's drawings and we need you to put it into Excel because the company was taking an old DOS-based system and moving them to an ERP.

00:16:40.576 --> 00:16:46.440
So I just started basically that way to an ERP.

00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:51.331
So I just started basically that way and then I learned about all the tables and how databases integrate and you know just how things run together and I just learned the system.

00:16:51.331 --> 00:16:53.331
I wasn't afraid of it, I wasn't afraid to play with it.

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So I sort of became their in-house process improvement person.

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And then the company that I work for now so I've been with Sabre for over 16 years, since 2008,.

00:17:03.267 --> 00:17:06.053
They were actually the partner that was implementing for us.

00:17:06.579 --> 00:17:10.151
So when I left that company they were like hey, have you ever thought about consulting?

00:17:10.151 --> 00:17:22.428
So I've been doing consulting since 2008 in the manufacturing space on a different ERP system, one called Visual, and then we actually got into GP for a period of time.

00:17:22.428 --> 00:17:33.083
So we did manufacturing implementations in the GP space for a few years and then we started looking at it and thinking like, is GP really the right product for manufacturing.

00:17:33.083 --> 00:17:37.862
So kind of came to the conclusion that really no, we should be in the NAV space.

00:17:37.862 --> 00:17:40.346
That's more the right product.

00:17:40.346 --> 00:17:43.593
So then we moved to NAV and then Business Central.

00:17:43.593 --> 00:17:47.367
So been doing that, like I said, since 2008.

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And just through the jigs and the reels over the last 16 years I've worked my way to be the vice president of the ERP practice at Sabre.

00:17:53.667 --> 00:17:59.988
So the whole ERP implementation side of the business runs under my umbrella.

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So that's sort of my day-to-day.

00:18:03.820 --> 00:18:04.063
Excellent.

00:18:04.063 --> 00:18:04.688
It's a lot of responsibility.

00:18:04.688 --> 00:18:05.394
It's a lot of responsibilities.

00:18:05.394 --> 00:18:08.669
It's a lot of responsibility and it's nice to see the progression.

00:18:08.669 --> 00:18:12.671
I like to hear the history of individuals that work within the community.

00:18:12.671 --> 00:18:14.928
Again, the community it's large, but it's small.

00:18:14.928 --> 00:18:17.596
I feel like everybody knows everybody, or at least it's coming across everybody.

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I always say that.

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And it's nice, yeah, and what's interesting, I think, about me is that I've been with Sabre for so long.

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Like sometimes you find, like you said, it's a large space but it's small because you see the same people.

00:18:28.075 --> 00:18:52.311
But you know you move around, you want to do different things and go to different places, but I've sort of been with Sabre for a really long time but you get to know a lot of really great people and that's why I love what you guys do, because it's so interesting to hear their different perspectives and different areas of expertise and it grows so much and it's such a good way to keep up with the features and you know all the integrations and the ecosystem and everything that's going on.

00:18:52.311 --> 00:19:02.221
So it's like you said, it's super big, it's always changing, but it's tight-knit and I feel like it's very like everyone always wants to help each other and share knowledge, which I I think is cool.

00:19:02.241 --> 00:19:02.843
It is.

00:19:02.843 --> 00:19:12.913
It's really cool and with that, so I couldn't think of anybody better to ask than you.

00:19:12.933 --> 00:19:13.934
Yes, okay, yes.

00:19:15.781 --> 00:19:29.122
So within Business Central we have the manufacturing I guess you call it module or manufacturing portion of it right when somebody can produce product using production orders.

00:19:29.122 --> 00:19:41.467
Also within business central we have assembly orders right and I often get asked what's the difference between a production order and assembly order?

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When would I use a production order versus an assembly order?

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What are the differences between the two?

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Right.

00:19:50.528 --> 00:19:52.113
And the questions go on and on and on.

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Right?

00:19:53.480 --> 00:20:07.371
So we get asked that a lot too, especially because we're in the manufacturing space, and a lot of the times, if they don't have a service component of their business, they're really trying to figure out do I need the premium license or an essential license?

00:20:07.371 --> 00:20:20.221
Right, because that's one of the key differences between using production orders and assembly orders is that assemblies are included with an essential license, whereas if you want the production orders you need the premium license.

00:20:20.221 --> 00:20:22.561
So that's one of the key differences.

00:20:22.561 --> 00:20:25.704
So if you start with sort of how are they the same?

00:20:25.704 --> 00:20:32.009
They both are supported by MRP, so they both can be considered supply or demand.

00:20:32.009 --> 00:20:37.192
You can do multi-level assembly orders, multi-level production orders.

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You have the ability to obviously create bills of materials and add items to both bills of materials and add items to both.

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You can make to stock or make to order.

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Like those things are the same.

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I would say some of the key differences would be and these would be the questions that I would ask how interested are you in capturing labor right, like capacity planning, labor collection?

00:21:01.702 --> 00:21:05.009
Within an assembly order, you can add resources.

00:21:05.009 --> 00:21:24.651
Resources can be people or they can be machines, but you're really just going to backflash a standard At the end of it on the production order side you'd have the ability to say well, I have a work center, in that work center I have individual machines and you want to look at the capacity between the work center group as a whole as well as individual machines.

00:21:24.651 --> 00:21:28.765
And you want to look at the capacity between the work center group as a whole as well as individual machines.

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You want to do things like capture, setup time, run time, wait time, move time.

00:21:34.663 --> 00:21:39.201
You can't do that in an assembly, you can only do that in a production order.

00:21:39.201 --> 00:21:45.885
Like I would ask them questions about the capacity planning side, like how do you need to see it move things around?

00:21:45.885 --> 00:21:49.348
And we can get into each of these kind of in more detail as we go.

00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:54.893
But the second thing I would ask them is how real time that order needs to be.

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So with an assembly you're really just you have an assembly, you produce something, so your ability to status that and say this is in the queue versus actively being worked on, your ability to consume material before you've output a finished good you need a production order for that.

00:22:13.007 --> 00:22:17.490
So you can kind of get more realistic costs, I would say.

00:22:17.490 --> 00:22:22.332
And then my third consideration would be whether or not you subcontract.

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Whether or not you subcontract.

00:22:28.382 --> 00:22:32.409
So if you send parts out for the routing or the labor to be produced by a vendor, production orders are better suited for that.

00:22:32.409 --> 00:22:37.605
So ideally I would say an assembly is more for like a kit scenario.

00:22:37.605 --> 00:22:41.842
You really care about inventory control and then production orders.

00:22:41.842 --> 00:22:46.750
You care more about capturing labor, the labor being real time capacity planning.

00:22:46.750 --> 00:22:49.694
You're maybe dealing with scheduling concerns.

00:22:51.040 --> 00:22:52.748
It's more details on the writing side.

00:22:52.748 --> 00:23:00.443
That was a good quick overview of production orders and assembly orders and I think we can be done now.

00:23:01.708 --> 00:23:04.710
Yeah, really, I mean we're good, that was perfect.

00:23:04.710 --> 00:23:06.605
Let's go back to the cats?

00:23:06.685 --> 00:23:07.348
No, I'm just kidding.

00:23:07.779 --> 00:23:12.717
Yeah, let's go back to the cats On the like each of them though you, you.

00:23:12.717 --> 00:23:14.320
There's differences too, right?

00:23:14.320 --> 00:23:23.346
So if you look at a bill of material, so for a kit or an assembly, you can't do what's called a phantom inside of an assembly.

00:23:23.346 --> 00:23:28.704
So that means that you have something that you're, you have a bill of material for.

00:23:28.704 --> 00:23:35.707
It's a component inside of your, your bomb, but you never actually stock it or you never actually scrap it.

00:23:35.707 --> 00:23:45.248
So you actually don't need to create the item, but you want to have a bill of material associated so that you can blow out the demand, the ability to add a negative like you can't do that.

00:23:46.079 --> 00:23:47.606
See, I've heard that word before.

00:23:47.606 --> 00:23:59.851
So a phantom bill of material is a bill of material for an item that you don't produce, but it's just a collection of items that you can group for planning and inventory.

00:24:01.141 --> 00:24:09.082
Yeah, so let's say you have a bomb and there's a component on that bomb a bill of material we don't have bombs here.

00:24:09.221 --> 00:24:14.441
I mean, we have bombs bill of materials, but we don't have bombs I know let's use the full.

00:24:14.461 --> 00:24:25.010
We got to use the full word one time I was in a meeting and because the microsoft, you use these acronyms all the time, right, I kept saying isv and the guy said what is an ISV?

00:24:25.010 --> 00:24:26.573
Stop using it.

00:24:26.573 --> 00:24:29.644
So I had to be cognizant to use the full word.

00:24:29.644 --> 00:24:31.288
But a bill of material.

00:24:31.288 --> 00:24:39.671
So within a bill of material you may have a component that you have like more components for.

00:24:39.671 --> 00:24:41.820
Think of it as like a multi-level bill of material.

00:24:42.261 --> 00:24:46.340
But you don't actually produce that component in the bond.

00:24:46.340 --> 00:24:50.391
You just you have a bunch of raw material that you collect, you put together.

00:24:50.391 --> 00:24:58.365
But think about it when you build Lego you immediately take that thing and you keep assembling it into its parent or whatever you're making for.

00:24:58.365 --> 00:25:00.269
So it would allow you to.

00:25:00.269 --> 00:25:03.644
In Business Central you could create a production bond for that item.

00:25:03.644 --> 00:25:09.554
You could list the components that you need for that item, meaning you could manage just one area.

00:25:09.554 --> 00:25:12.404
If that bond changes, bill of material changes.

00:25:12.404 --> 00:25:21.489
But then you never actually have to create an item card for it, you never need to output it and put it on hand and consume it.

00:25:21.489 --> 00:25:25.211
So your inventory control of that phantom level, you don't need it but you can manage a bond for it.

00:25:25.211 --> 00:25:25.230
I get it.

00:25:25.230 --> 00:25:28.028
So your inventory control of that phantom level, you don't need it, but you can manage a bomb for it.

00:25:28.249 --> 00:25:28.830
I get it.

00:25:28.830 --> 00:25:30.759
So it's almost like you had mentioned.

00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:34.512
If I'm putting something together, I take all of the pieces.

00:25:34.512 --> 00:25:39.186
I have to first put these three things together before I can do the rest of it.

00:25:39.186 --> 00:25:40.510
Is that a good way to think of it?

00:25:40.510 --> 00:25:40.980
So?

00:25:41.040 --> 00:25:42.787
I still have the inventory.

00:25:44.172 --> 00:25:45.938
I don't need to create an item for it.

00:25:45.938 --> 00:25:47.061
I don't need to plan for it.

00:25:47.061 --> 00:25:51.751
I need to plan for the components, but it's part of the process of building it.

00:25:51.751 --> 00:26:01.827
I need to build this thing maybe first, but build this thing with these pieces together, then take what is completed and then use that to continue building my product.

00:26:01.827 --> 00:26:03.010
Is that a good?

00:26:03.050 --> 00:26:05.666
that's right but that's a good way to think of it, but you don't.

00:26:05.666 --> 00:26:06.855
But that's a good way to think of it, but you don't like.

00:26:06.855 --> 00:26:14.065
My key thing is that once you take those components and you put them together, do you need to actually put it on a shelf for some period of time?

00:26:14.065 --> 00:26:21.606
Like, do you need to know that it's there, you know, for inventory valuation perspective, or just to consume it later or to scrap it?

00:26:21.606 --> 00:26:32.566
Like, if you take a bunch of components and you collect them, you put them together, but then you just immediately use that little weldment or sub-assembly to build something else.

00:26:32.566 --> 00:26:34.451
You just keep building it.

00:26:34.451 --> 00:26:50.746
So, from a planning perspective, if you were to look at your bill of material, you might see a phantom line which has an ID, but when you actually ran your MRP or your material requirements, it would actually tell you just to purchase or produce the components.

00:26:51.867 --> 00:26:54.353
Got it understood right.

00:26:54.432 --> 00:26:59.550
So in an assembly there's isvs that will allow you to do that what's so?

00:26:59.550 --> 00:27:00.311
Ben cole.

00:27:00.311 --> 00:27:01.996
Oh, I know sorry.

00:27:02.256 --> 00:27:06.232
Independent software vendor we're gonna get out there no, I, I say that in jest, but it is.

00:27:06.232 --> 00:27:06.555
It's true.

00:27:06.555 --> 00:27:33.256
When we have conversations with the acronyms, I do it myself I know it's, it's it's assuming a level of understanding, and I was just on a call with somebody who was new to business central and sometimes you forget after working with it for so long the terminology is quite different than what many expect, so it's almost like you have to have a language lesson when you first start in implementation, because this is what we mean.

00:27:34.117 --> 00:27:35.641
There's people that don't even use VAR.

00:27:35.641 --> 00:27:39.519
Some people use VAR and some people just say partner too.

00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:41.336
So that's kind of changed.

00:27:42.451 --> 00:27:47.694
Well, and it's good for you guys to do that is to like reset the expectation, to like what are they calling it today?

00:27:47.694 --> 00:27:48.357
Right?

00:27:48.357 --> 00:27:51.440
Because to your point, Chris, it does change.

00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.461
So it's like does that still mean the same thing?

00:27:53.461 --> 00:28:00.356
That I thought it was yesterday, but yeah, so for the independent software vendors they would be like the little apps that can plug in.

00:28:00.477 --> 00:28:15.246
So on the assembly side there is apps like ben cole from erp connect has one called advanced assemblies I'm gonna stop right there, I'm calling ben after this and I'm gonna tell him that he needs to like ben.

00:28:15.246 --> 00:28:19.957
You need to give us kickbacks or something, because we've had several episodes in a row.

00:28:19.997 --> 00:28:21.559
Now they have such great products.

00:28:21.579 --> 00:28:25.855
Everybody's brought up ben and it's like oh, ben cole has this, ben has this.

00:28:26.477 --> 00:28:42.701
So I'm gonna call ben after this yeah, he's like a little celebrity, I guess, in the ecosystem, but he does have things like the ability to do phantoms, the ability to do version control, which is something that production like the ability to do phantoms, the ability to do version control, which is something that production bombs allow you to do, but you can't do them in assemblies.

00:28:42.701 --> 00:29:00.634
So sometimes you can look at, well, what are the key things that production needs that isn't in an assembly and then just get a little independent software solution to be able to plug in or, depending on how much of that, you might just need the whole premium module.

00:29:00.634 --> 00:29:07.502
Okay, so I'm trying to keep track of the differences between as you're speaking the differences between production orders and assembly orders.

00:29:07.522 --> 00:29:09.111
So I just want to try to reset for a moment.

00:29:09.111 --> 00:29:11.776
First thing is licensing.

00:29:11.776 --> 00:29:20.402
So with business central licensing a difference is you need the premium license If you want to use production orders and manufacturing.

00:29:20.402 --> 00:29:22.434
You just need the essential orders.

00:29:22.434 --> 00:29:24.961
If you want to use assembly orders, only Right.

00:29:24.961 --> 00:29:26.336
So that's one of the first things.

00:29:26.336 --> 00:29:40.626
From a use case point of view, production orders have routings and you can track capacity as well as labor time and labor right.

00:29:41.790 --> 00:29:46.863
So I would say that both have the ability to track labor.

00:29:46.863 --> 00:29:58.673
Assemblies allow you to add resources which a resource you would just say is a machine or a person, and then you can put a time to it If you want.

00:29:58.673 --> 00:30:07.751
On production orders you can add either a work center or a machine center, so you can have that kind of big view or down to the machine level view.

00:30:08.173 --> 00:30:17.182
Okay, so a work center would be a department, potentially right, so you may have a department for casting assembly or something.

00:30:17.182 --> 00:30:19.407
Or yes, welding.

00:30:19.407 --> 00:30:26.270
And then the machine centers would be welder one, welder machine two, welder machine three, within that work center for welding.

00:30:27.554 --> 00:30:30.339
You could do that, yeah, or you could have a work center.

00:30:30.339 --> 00:30:30.980
That's just.

00:30:30.980 --> 00:30:35.394
I set up a work center for every single machine that I have and that's how I want to track it.

00:30:35.394 --> 00:30:37.336
But you can see you have flexibility there.

00:30:37.336 --> 00:30:54.798
You also have the ability to say, instead of just one overall resource time, which is what you would get on an assembly, on a production order, you could break out this is the setup time for that step, this is the run time for that step, here's the wait time, the move time.

00:30:54.798 --> 00:30:58.904
So it allows you to have a lot more detail in your routing.

00:30:58.904 --> 00:31:04.461
You can also do things like a fixed scrap quantity.

00:31:04.461 --> 00:31:15.259
So if you're in an environment where you say, well, I have a first piece inspection, every time I run this, I need to produce an extra piece, you can associate that type of thing.

00:31:15.930 --> 00:31:19.160
So production orders allow for scrap, assembly orders do not.

00:31:21.111 --> 00:31:25.981
Right, yeah, like, like I said, resource time is really just like very basic.

00:31:25.981 --> 00:31:32.592
You want to get a little bit of labor cost in, but you're really not trying to analyze it or break it out into too much detail.

00:31:33.032 --> 00:31:34.955
Okay, understood.

00:31:34.955 --> 00:31:45.403
And then you also said manufacturing orders have subcontract capabilities or subcontractor capabilities, and assembly orders do not.

00:31:46.851 --> 00:31:47.172
Yeah.

00:31:47.172 --> 00:31:54.093
So for the production side of things, I would say that you've got the subcontract worksheet which is in the premium.

00:31:54.093 --> 00:32:04.546
It works with production orders it's really designed for I am sending out a specific routing step or work center to a vendor for outside work.

00:32:04.546 --> 00:32:13.604
So on an assembly, could I indicate that I've got a resource that is an outside service vendor?

00:32:13.604 --> 00:32:20.933
Sure, but collecting the actual cost from a linked purchase order back into assembly I can't do that very well.

00:32:20.933 --> 00:32:26.951
If I were to have a production order, I can indicate that I've got a work center.

00:32:26.951 --> 00:32:30.819
That work center would have a vendor associated to it.

00:32:30.941 --> 00:32:35.345
So it's very clear to everybody that this is something that we don't do internally for labor.

00:32:35.345 --> 00:32:36.691
This is something a vendor does.

00:32:36.691 --> 00:32:40.721
And then you have similar to the worksheets inside of Business Central.

00:32:40.721 --> 00:32:49.833
You have what's called a subcontract worksheet where you can run that and it will calculate for you of all of your released production orders.

00:32:49.833 --> 00:32:51.958
So we'll get into this.

00:32:51.958 --> 00:32:56.512
But you can status production right, like is it released versus is it just in the queue.

00:32:56.512 --> 00:33:02.162
But for every released production order, what do I need to send out to vendors?

00:33:02.162 --> 00:33:04.325
You create a purchase order.

00:33:04.325 --> 00:33:14.661
That purchase order is linked back to the work center and that production order and then when you post that purchase invoice, that actual cost will go into the production order.

00:33:14.661 --> 00:33:19.121
So it allows you a lot more accurate costing for that subcontract service.

00:33:19.121 --> 00:33:22.019
So it's just a lot better designed for it.

00:33:22.019 --> 00:33:23.813
I would say so.

00:33:24.596 --> 00:33:35.941
You had mentioned production orders can have status codes so you can track the orders by where they are, and some of them were planned, firm, planned, released, finished.

00:33:35.941 --> 00:33:36.742
What are they?

00:33:37.590 --> 00:33:40.869
There's another one right gonna tell you let's, let's do.

00:33:40.869 --> 00:33:44.078
He's always trying to test me, chris, we should test him right now.

00:33:44.078 --> 00:33:45.711
No, I'm just, I'm not trying to test you.

00:33:45.711 --> 00:33:56.319
I'm just trying to get a better understanding of you were telling me earlier, when I meet you in vegas for dinner, I have to tell you know why you're giving me certain states.

00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:58.423
So I was just teasing with you.

00:34:00.375 --> 00:34:01.799
I see, I see what this is, yeah.

00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:08.215
So on the assembly order side, chris, we're just deleting this episode yeah, just throw it out.

00:34:08.235 --> 00:34:08.737
It's just for us.

00:34:08.737 --> 00:34:09.400
It's trapped.

00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:10.635
This is just for fun now.

00:34:11.150 --> 00:34:26.972
But the assembly orders, they're kind of they're created and you output to say something's produced which would consume the material, but then it's just finished once everything has been output, once you've made everything you're supposed to make.

00:34:26.972 --> 00:34:27.534
That's kind of.

00:34:27.534 --> 00:34:30.391
So it kind of gets created and then it goes into a black hole.

00:34:30.391 --> 00:34:40.322
Now, with a production order, you can create a simulated production order which is really just for like quoting, estimating, trying to figure out how costs would come.

00:34:41.391 --> 00:34:49.644
The planning worksheet can create you a planned production order, meaning that it's something that probably is needed.

00:34:49.644 --> 00:34:52.539
You're planning for it but nobody's committed to it.

00:34:52.539 --> 00:34:54.155
Think of it maybe like that.

00:34:54.155 --> 00:35:02.414
Then you can do a firm planned production order, which I like to think of this as I've committed to making it.

00:35:02.414 --> 00:35:11.697
It's firmed up, I will make it for this quantity, this item, this date, but it's not actively being worked on, so it's like in the queue.

00:35:11.697 --> 00:35:20.231
If you will, then you can release a firm planned production order or just start it as released To me.

00:35:20.231 --> 00:35:22.880
That indicates I've released it to the shop floor.

00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.034
Somebody's working on it.

00:35:25.034 --> 00:35:37.697
So if I want to increase the quantity, if I want to change a material or a work center, I know I have to go and find it, figure out where it is and maybe change paperwork and change it in my system, and then there's a finished status.

00:35:37.697 --> 00:35:46.436
So you've got a lot more statusing capability to be able to indicate well, where, like, has this even been started?

00:35:47.237 --> 00:35:50.820
Got it and so a simulated production order is for costing.

00:35:50.820 --> 00:35:56.659
So if you wanted to put something together to make like a cost sheet I've heard people say they wanted to do cost sheets right.

00:35:56.659 --> 00:35:58.557
So is that what you would use a simulated order for?

00:35:58.617 --> 00:36:07.514
Or quote yeah, like maybe you're quoting a new product line and you want to add some items and some work centers to it to figure out what your material and labor cost would be.

00:36:07.514 --> 00:36:15.137
You know, for the purposes of quoting, but you're not going to transact against it, you're not going to consume against it, you won't build against it.

00:36:15.237 --> 00:36:31.713
It's really just for the purposes of figuring out, like potentially, at like, what a cost could look like okay, and then a planned and firm, planned, released orders, uh orders that you're working on or you will work on, and then yeah, I would say release would be.

00:36:31.733 --> 00:36:32.614
You're working on it.

00:36:32.614 --> 00:36:33.257
Released is finished.

00:36:33.257 --> 00:36:34.380
Order you're done finished.

00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:34.661
What is that?

00:36:34.661 --> 00:36:39.331
You mentioned material requirements, so I'm going to guess here.

00:36:39.331 --> 00:36:43.429
Simulated orders don't show up in your material requirements.

00:36:43.429 --> 00:36:48.663
Planning do planned and firm planned, or does a firm plan and a plan doesn't?

00:36:49.786 --> 00:37:02.490
yeah, so most often a planned order is created because you're running some kind of planning tool like the planning worksheet, so it will plan for you what you need, depending, depending on the item setup, if you've included it to plan.

00:37:02.550 --> 00:37:14.804
But it can plan for you all the material down to your lowest level, so it can be your raw materials, it can be sub assemblies and so it will create basically a planned production order.

00:37:14.804 --> 00:37:34.521
Let's say, if it was produced item all the way down, like I said, to your lowest level, and typically you've got like a planning tool that does that, like that you're running, and then a person will look at the planned orders from, say, an MRP, and then they will firm them up because they commit to that quantity, that date.

00:37:34.521 --> 00:37:37.202
They've validated that it truly makes sense.

00:37:37.202 --> 00:37:48.461
Because a planning worksheet is just a suggestion, right, and I always say it's dumb and dutiful so it shouldn't replace a human that actually looks at that and validates that that was a good suggestion.

00:37:48.461 --> 00:37:58.550
And then they would create that firm plan which puts it into like the to-do queue so that the production team knows okay, this is what you should actually be building.

00:37:59.612 --> 00:38:05.563
Okay, and then released means it's released to the floor or released for work.

00:38:06.911 --> 00:38:10.659
Right and I mean there's no hard rules in the system.

00:38:10.659 --> 00:38:20.724
Like I know some people who say well, you know, as soon as we create the orders, we're running that production pretty quickly, so they might just create a released order right out of the gate.

00:38:20.724 --> 00:38:41.786
But the idea here, I think, on the production order side, is you have a lot more flexibility in how you want to produce items, where you want to collect, when you consume, how you consume if your consumption's related to output, like, you have a lot more flexibility instead of it just being like it exists and it's done.

00:38:43.251 --> 00:38:44.577
Perfect, Thank you.

00:38:44.577 --> 00:38:46.876
That explains the types.

00:38:46.876 --> 00:38:49.579
So there's five types of statuses for production orders.

00:38:49.579 --> 00:38:55.719
You also had mentioned we can do versioning of bill of materials in production orders with assembly orders.

00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:56.501
We cannot do that.

00:38:56.501 --> 00:39:06.501
And then also we can have say I wrote this down, phantom bill of materials and you cannot have them in the assembly orders.

00:39:06.501 --> 00:39:08.775
Can you have multiple levels on assembly orders?

00:39:09.838 --> 00:39:13.498
You can Yep, so you can have multi-level assembly orders.

00:39:13.498 --> 00:39:21.577
So if we look at like, say, the master data, so if we want to look at differences, we could start kind of from the masters and work our way down.

00:39:21.577 --> 00:39:28.818
So a kit or an assembly, its bill of materials, is created on the item card itself.

00:39:28.818 --> 00:39:40.972
So you would have one assembly bomb potentially for each of the items that you create On the production order side, items that you create On the production order side.

00:39:40.992 --> 00:39:44.059
You would create a production bomb in the production bomb page, so it's sort of separate from the item card.

00:39:44.059 --> 00:39:51.041
You'd create the bill of material and then you associate it back to an item or multiple items.

00:39:51.041 --> 00:40:08.023
So that's kind of a neat thing about production as well is if you have an item and you say all of these groups of items, they're, they're built the exact same way, they have the exact same material, they have the exact same quantities that are required and how I calculate those quantities required are the same.

00:40:08.023 --> 00:40:33.668
You could associate one bill of material to 50 items if you want, which means that you only have to maintain one bill of material if there's a change ah, so the assembly items assembled items have a bill material unique to an item and produced I'm just using assembled because of assembly orders, to my terminology here.

00:40:33.748 --> 00:40:37.255
Yeah, and produced items because you're using production bill.

00:40:37.255 --> 00:40:43.364
Materials or production orders for them don't have a bill of material associated with them.

00:40:43.364 --> 00:40:48.239
They don't have a unique bill of materials directly associated with them.

00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:51.255
They have a bill of material associated with them.

00:40:51.255 --> 00:40:59.851
That's a group of items, but that bill of material can be shared, so a bill of material itself is its own entity that can be used as part of other items.

00:41:00.932 --> 00:41:13.836
Right so the bill of material is created separate from the item and then you associate it back later and it could be there's one bill of material for every item, or it could be there's one bill of material that, to your point, is shared between lots of items.

00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:15.840
Got it.

00:41:16.483 --> 00:41:24.052
Lots of differences mean lots of items got it.

00:41:24.072 --> 00:41:24.753
Lots of differences, see I in.

00:41:24.753 --> 00:41:25.213
So there is no.

00:41:25.213 --> 00:41:32.324
It is interesting because I've heard that question asked several times and I like to see you know what the real answer is.

00:41:33.271 --> 00:41:37.280
Right, so yeah, and it's like a conversation really right.

00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:42.137
It's not an answer, because it becomes well, how do you, how do you?

00:41:42.137 --> 00:41:51.231
And then you have to kind of strip back the onion and then you're trying to find like features or functions that would say, ooh, that's going to put you into this bucket.

00:41:51.231 --> 00:41:52.213
So like another one.

00:41:52.213 --> 00:42:02.235
As an example is, on your bill of material you have a quantity per, so basically what the system can do is calculate Well, assembly bill material.

00:42:02.476 --> 00:42:03.952
Okay, thank you, so on both.

00:42:03.992 --> 00:42:11.197
You have to indicate for the component items how much of that component item do you need to build one of the end item?

00:42:12.231 --> 00:42:28.373
On a production BOM bill of material, you would have the ability to say well, my calculation formula is take the quantity per that I've indicated, times it by the quantity that I need to produce, and then tell me that's the expected quantity.

00:42:28.373 --> 00:42:35.150
So if you had a bike and you need a front wheel, then you need one front wheel.

00:42:35.150 --> 00:42:37.998
If I'm making 10 bikes, I need 10 front wheels.

00:42:37.998 --> 00:42:49.440
You could, though, change your calculation formula on a production bill of material to say well, I want it to calculate based on length, therefore you're going to put in a length dimension.

00:42:49.440 --> 00:43:01.704
Or you could say I want it to calculate based on length times width, and therefore you're going to plug in those fields, and it will calculate the expected quantity based on taking a length times a width, and therefore you're going to plug in those fields and it will calculate the expected quantity based on taking a length times a width.

00:43:01.704 --> 00:43:04.487
So there's a few different options there.

00:43:04.487 --> 00:43:07.074
You can do weight, you can do a fixed quantity.

00:43:07.074 --> 00:43:12.472
You don't have that functionality when you look at an assembly built material.

00:43:13.094 --> 00:43:13.954
That's a big difference.

00:43:13.954 --> 00:43:16.338
So if somebody's a producer of something that's.

00:43:16.338 --> 00:43:19.425
I want a desk that's four feet by six feet.

00:43:19.425 --> 00:43:34.443
My materials would vary, because I may also make a desk that's three feet by five feet, yeah, like there's definitely different ways to do it, but the yeah, when you're calculating your expected quantity there's.

00:43:35.085 --> 00:43:42.114
It's not always just well, I've got so much of an item and if I'm building 10 of them, I need 10 times that amount.

00:43:42.114 --> 00:43:44.280
Like it's not always that cut and dry.

00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:52.851
So it's it's the most common one that I see people use it that way, but there is, there is flexibility around that.

00:43:53.351 --> 00:44:01.922
So so you're saying, like if you get, like if you order two 10 foot tables and then you have to, you have to order the material of.

00:44:01.922 --> 00:44:13.583
Let's say, they only come in 30 feet, 30 feet table, so you have a, you would, you would somehow break it down how much you need to build those two tables, in a sense.

00:44:14.971 --> 00:44:20.657
Like ultimately that's what like a building material would do is you're breaking out how much material do I need to build those two tables?

00:44:20.657 --> 00:44:21.940
And you can do it different ways.

00:44:21.940 --> 00:44:24.858
You could do it by calculating, like you said, different dimensions.

00:44:24.858 --> 00:44:31.641
You could do it by having just different unique items because maybe they come in those cut pieces already.

00:44:31.641 --> 00:44:34.134
You could have it with like an item and a variant.

00:44:34.134 --> 00:44:41.096
But when you start looking into that scenario, like you said, where it's like I've got variation, it's not always the same.

00:44:41.557 --> 00:44:46.657
Sometimes you want to look more at like a production order because it just it doesn't close your door as quickly.

00:44:46.657 --> 00:44:52.628
Yeah, yeah.

00:44:52.628 --> 00:44:54.773
So we talked about the like.

00:44:54.773 --> 00:45:00.492
If you think about master records, you can copy BOMs, production bills, materials and routings.

00:45:00.492 --> 00:45:02.317
You can't do that on assemblies.

00:45:02.317 --> 00:45:06.373
You can do version control, like we spoke about.

00:45:06.373 --> 00:45:11.181
You've got I'm trying to think of like other main ones.

00:45:12.182 --> 00:45:17.664
The other thing on a production bill of material is you could add a negative quantity.

00:45:17.664 --> 00:45:40.210
So when it's calculating what materials are needed and it's coming up with your production order component list, let's say you're in an industry where you have some scrap recovery, like we've dealt with customers where they say, well, I've got a certain material that is left over and I can actually turn around and sell that back and get a profit for it.

00:45:40.210 --> 00:45:44.081
So when they produce something, they need to be able to capture that scrap recovery.

00:45:44.081 --> 00:45:51.614
So on a production bill of material you're typically indicating the items that you want to consume, which is when you post it.

00:45:51.614 --> 00:45:53.458
It's going to decrease your inventory.

00:45:53.458 --> 00:46:08.023
But you can add a negative quantity to a production bill of material so that when you post your consumption of it it would actually increase an on-hand value or quantity.

00:46:09.630 --> 00:46:12.297
So it's like a byproduct maybe.

00:46:12.777 --> 00:46:19.181
Yes, that's like a common term for it, but like basically you're saying that like you've got material coming back and increasing.

00:46:19.789 --> 00:46:34.338
So, like I said, the most common one that I do see is that like sort of scrap recovery on an assembly Like cable, like a cable where, like you use a certain amount of cable and it's like I don't need, didn't need all of that to have scrap, you can resell some of those cable.

00:46:34.338 --> 00:46:35.972
Is that a good example?

00:46:35.992 --> 00:46:43.422
you'd probably just buy in like a roll and then on the actual order you would just indicate the inches or the feet that you actually need.

00:46:43.422 --> 00:46:46.820
So you're you would only put in what you expect to use.

00:46:46.820 --> 00:46:53.239
Um, this would be like if you're expecting to get a product back that might be different.

00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:58.871
So, like in the scenario you're using of the cable, it's all one part, right, like it's just how much of that one part did I use?

00:46:58.871 --> 00:47:01.295
In the scenario you're using of the cable, it's all one part, right, like it's just how much of that one part did I use?

00:47:01.295 --> 00:47:19.125
In the case that I'm using, I'm indicating I'm making this part, I'm consuming these raw materials, but I'm also going to get and Brad, you kind of mentioned it, like I'm going to get this other product that's going to increase my on-hand that I might sell or I might use to consume in another part.

00:47:19.125 --> 00:47:21.117
So it would have unique part IDs.

00:47:21.117 --> 00:47:23.650
What I think is the key difference than what you're talking about.

00:47:23.650 --> 00:47:28.353
So it's a different item that you're getting back and it's not a component item, nor is it the finished item.

00:47:28.353 --> 00:47:34.416
It's another item that's a byproduct of putting all of those together and falling off.

00:47:34.416 --> 00:47:40.092
I guess you could say so you put all this together and there's something left over, and that's something after.

00:47:40.213 --> 00:47:55.579
left over is not those components, it's something different and then that's something that you can do something with, you can sell it back to you know, get some uh revenue from that because it's a high value product or things like that.

00:47:55.579 --> 00:48:04.876
So that's that's what I mean by that, yeah okay, okay, another one that I've heard conversation on.

00:48:04.976 --> 00:48:05.657
What about you?

00:48:05.657 --> 00:48:10.936
You mentioning scrap tracking and you can do scrap with production orders, not assembly orders.

00:48:10.936 --> 00:48:12.342
What about loss?

00:48:12.342 --> 00:48:15.030
Is that the same as scrap, or is loss different?

00:48:16.172 --> 00:48:24.800
yeah, like um, I think that's the same, I don't know in the context that you're thinking of it, but like yeah, you would indicate the other thing.

00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:33.371
I think to kind of maybe what you're talking about, maybe not, but the ability to be more specific in what you're consuming.

00:48:33.371 --> 00:48:39.251
So, for example, on an assembly order you have an expected quantity that you need to consume.

00:48:39.251 --> 00:48:44.682
So if you want to consume a little bit less than you're expected, that's very easy.

00:48:44.682 --> 00:48:48.498
You can consume less, you can have a little bit left over and you know.

00:48:48.498 --> 00:48:50.931
Just clear that out and close your production order.

00:48:50.931 --> 00:49:01.094
If you wanted to say, oh, I used more, like I use this product, then I realized, oh crap, that's not really what I want and I had to use a little bit more.

00:49:01.094 --> 00:49:07.400
Or maybe I was training, so I used a little bit more and I'm okay to have that cost go into the cost of the production order.

00:49:08.143 --> 00:49:28.353
Over-consuming your expected quantity is, I'll just say, a lot easier in a production order, because if my expected quantity was 10 and I want to use the production journal or the consumption journal to say I consumed 11, the system lets 11 be the number and you post it and it decreases 11.

00:49:29.356 --> 00:49:36.235
If I have a assembly order and I list that I expect to use 10 and I enter 11, I get an error.

00:49:36.235 --> 00:49:47.237
So now potentially I have to play with that quantity, per that calculated my expected quantity and have it come up with making sure that my expected quantity is 11.

00:49:47.237 --> 00:49:48.172
Like it's just a.

00:49:48.172 --> 00:49:50.400
It's not easy, right?

00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:55.858
I can't just easily go in and say I didn't use 10, I used 12 and post it.

00:49:55.858 --> 00:49:58.679
So that's what we say on the production order side.

00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:15.130
It allows you to be a little bit more detailed and accurate and like real time with what really happened, whereas I would say on an assembly you're more looking to just backflash the expected items, the expected resource time and indicate that you made something.

00:50:15.130 --> 00:50:32.505
You're not as interested in the exact resource time or maybe even material, because it's just standard all the time, it doesn't change very much or it's just not important yeah, that that's just like liquid, right, I think liquid was.

00:50:32.867 --> 00:50:42.344
Um, I was on a project once and I just didn't quite understand how you would capture overflow and loss and liquid stuff.

00:50:42.364 --> 00:50:43.085
That's what I was thinking.

00:50:43.085 --> 00:50:49.875
I worked with someone who worked with precious metals and they had gold, and so they made something with gold, right, and then the gold would expect.

00:50:49.875 --> 00:50:50.998
I'll just keep it simple.

00:50:50.998 --> 00:50:52.614
Do you use ounces up there?

00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:56.416
Yeah, we use ounces.

00:50:56.416 --> 00:51:05.972
That's a serious question.

00:51:05.972 --> 00:51:08.983
Y a serious question because in canada, because the imperial metric thing, yes, the imperial, versus metric.

00:51:09.123 --> 00:51:40.811
But in canada what I've learned is they use the imperial sometime and the metric sometimes, but sometimes for the same thing, because certain things they use inches and feet for, and there's certain things you don't meet us for so they're trying to like, yeah, they're trying to satisfy both systems, so they kind of straddle the fence we're people, pleasers up here, that's right but no, they were talking about where they had something that may use an ounce of gold and they want to recover the scrap, obviously because gold is precious and has a lot of value.

00:51:40.893 --> 00:51:45.989
So I need to give you one ounce to produce something that may use 0.75 ounces.

00:51:45.989 --> 00:51:59.603
The scrap right there should be 0.25 ounces, but in the manufacturing process they may lose 0.02 ounces due to you know, if you're cutting something, you're going to have a slight loss.

00:51:59.603 --> 00:52:01.896
That's where I was coming up with being able to try.

00:52:01.896 --> 00:52:03.641
See, I'm trying to learn some things here.

00:52:03.829 --> 00:52:12.139
Well, and scrap too is good If you know that you're always going to get some scrap, like you always know that it's going to be 2%, 5%, 10% more.

00:52:12.139 --> 00:52:15.311
On the production bomb you can indicate a scrap percent.

00:52:15.311 --> 00:52:37.320
So if you're using something like a planning worksheet or an automated system, it will calculate that you need to buy a little bit more or make a little bit more, but then when you actually go to do the consumption it'll account for that and it will even break it out sometimes in the entries when you go and look at it, so you'll be able to see this much was good material, much was scrap material.

00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:43.038
So, yeah, there's different like levels of detail, for sure, on that.

00:52:43.038 --> 00:52:51.557
Um, yeah, I'm trying to think of another one that would be different on the assemblies well, the assembly orders.

00:52:51.838 --> 00:52:52.981
I know, on the item card.

00:52:52.981 --> 00:52:54.311
I've seen replenishment systems.

00:52:54.311 --> 00:52:54.813
You know, is it assembled?

00:52:54.813 --> 00:52:55.134
Is it produced?

00:52:55.134 --> 00:52:58.945
I've seen replenishment systems, you know, is it assembled?

00:52:58.945 --> 00:52:59.646
Is it produced?

00:52:59.646 --> 00:53:01.076
I've seen assembled to order.

00:53:01.076 --> 00:53:04.038
What is that play into this at all?

00:53:05.371 --> 00:53:13.570
So on a assembly, or so you can, you can have both of them auto reserve, to like sales orders as an example.

00:53:13.769 --> 00:53:17.018
So you can do an assemble to order or assemble to stock.

00:53:17.057 --> 00:53:26.311
So when you do an assemble to order, that would essentially mean that as soon as you put a quantity on a sales order, it's going to automatically create a kit item or an assembly order.

00:53:26.311 --> 00:53:36.793
The key thing with that is that when you see that assembly order, you aren't able to post that assembly quantity and put it into inventory.

00:53:36.793 --> 00:53:45.824
You essentially, when you ship it, it's going to automatically post the output of the assembly order and use that for the shipment.

00:53:45.824 --> 00:53:56.163
So that's something that you want to be careful of, right, because you might say but I do want to stock it, even though it's for this order, I want to stock it and I move it around my warehouse.

00:53:56.163 --> 00:54:03.298
So in that case and you can do this on both you could create an assembly order or a production order.

00:54:03.298 --> 00:54:13.014
That's just for stock, for inventory, so it's not tied to an order, but you could reserve it manually to an order, which would allow you to be able to output both.

00:54:13.014 --> 00:54:16.003
You could put it on hand, you could move it around your warehouse.

00:54:16.003 --> 00:54:19.128
That functionality would be available in both.

00:54:19.730 --> 00:54:22.932
So the assemble to order option with an assembly order.

00:54:22.932 --> 00:54:35.927
When you put an item on the sales line with a quantity, it automatically creates an assembly order for that quantity, which at that point just becomes a document because it doesn't get produced.

00:54:35.927 --> 00:54:39.000
I use the word produced or the output doesn't happen?

00:54:39.530 --> 00:54:40.092
Transacted yes.

00:54:40.291 --> 00:54:42.077
Thank you, I'll use that from going forward.

00:54:42.077 --> 00:54:43.121
It doesn't get transacted.

00:54:43.121 --> 00:54:54.987
Thank you, it doesn't get transacted until you ship the order and then it automatically posts the assembly order, increasing the inventory then shipping, decreasing the components.

00:54:55.547 --> 00:54:56.853
Yes, decreasing the components, thank you.

00:54:56.853 --> 00:54:58.382
Increasing the output of the assembled item, then shipping the components.

00:54:58.382 --> 00:54:59.206
Yes, decreasing the components, thank you.

00:54:59.206 --> 00:55:01.777
Increasing the output of the assembled item, then shipping it.

00:55:01.777 --> 00:55:07.760
So that's not really something that's meant to be tracked, because how would you put it through the system?

00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:11.072
It's something that maybe, when they're shipping it, they kid it.

00:55:11.072 --> 00:55:12.898
So the right.

00:55:13.179 --> 00:55:24.835
So I'm just trying to think of a use case for that to, to get a better understanding of when yeah, and that could be like a kit scenario, right, Like I've got these kit items as I only kit them together when somebody orders them.

00:55:24.835 --> 00:55:27.481
So when somebody orders them, you want to be able.

00:55:27.481 --> 00:55:32.550
And again this drives back to like I need the inventory control of the components and that's what you really care about.

00:55:32.550 --> 00:55:38.458
But you don't really care about the labor, because it's such a quick process and the labor time might be like very small.

00:55:38.458 --> 00:55:41.523
So an order comes in, they need 10 of these kits.

00:55:41.523 --> 00:55:48.643
Somebody goes, they pick the components, they put them together, put them in a bag, put them in whatever, they ship them out.

00:55:48.643 --> 00:55:53.039
So by the time somebody gets that order, picks those parts and ships it.

00:55:53.039 --> 00:56:02.297
It's so quick that I don't need to consume in one step, output in one step, see it on the shelf, then use it for shipping.

00:56:02.297 --> 00:56:05.990
It's just too many transactions, it's too many touches, it's not.

00:56:05.990 --> 00:56:11.963
It doesn't run over a long enough period of time to justify all those transactions.

00:56:12.570 --> 00:56:15.780
Which answers or dovetails into like what you were talking about.

00:56:15.780 --> 00:56:17.333
Like when would you use one?

00:56:17.333 --> 00:56:27.780
Right, you would use a production order if you tend to start something and it's produced over like a few weeks or even a few months, and with a production order.

00:56:27.780 --> 00:56:33.778
You would have the ability to be able to consume inventory without outputting a finished good.

00:56:33.778 --> 00:56:41.391
You would have the ability to a finished good.

00:56:41.391 --> 00:56:59.884
You would have the ability to tie a certain operation step to material components using what's called a routing link code, where you could say, well, without outputting and saying I finished the end product, I finished it at this operation let's say it's the saw cutting operation, so I want to consume these materials because at that point they're in my whip, I no longer have them on my shelf.

00:57:04.150 --> 00:57:43.054
And then maybe you've got more items that are listed on your bill of material and you could consume those just at the end when you produce them or through another operation so with the production order, you can have components consumed as they go through the routing at certain steps, because that's where you expect the consumption to occur, because it is, you know, maybe have a routing step of assembly, so assembly is going to take x components are, and then it's going to automatically consume those when an assembly order it does it whenever you it's basically when you say you're finished the end part

00:57:43.175 --> 00:57:48.425
it will consume whatever you have in your consumption quantity, like whatever you've indicated there.

00:57:48.425 --> 00:57:58.184
So basically, on the operation, the work center or machine center and the material, you have something called the flushing method.

00:57:58.184 --> 00:58:03.963
So your flushing method, to your point, brad will indicate when do I want to consume material?

00:58:03.963 --> 00:58:07.260
And you don't have this capability with an assembly order.

00:58:07.260 --> 00:58:30.349
So if you've got manual, which means that somebody will manually go in at some point, they will use what's called the consumption journal or the production journal to enter in the date, the item, the quantity, both support lot and serial tracking, and they'll indicate I want to consume this specific component on this specific order.

00:58:30.349 --> 00:58:33.701
Nothing to do with what was produced, nothing to do with operation.

00:58:34.630 --> 00:58:48.695
You can do what's called a forward flush, which means we talked earlier about the status codes as soon as somebody changes the status from firm plan to released, it would then consume any forward flush material.

00:58:48.695 --> 00:58:56.858
So at that point, whatever the expected quantity is, it will decrease that inventory and it will issue that cost.

00:58:56.858 --> 00:59:08.751
You could do backward, which means that you are going to when the status changes from released to finished, it will automatically consume.

00:59:08.751 --> 00:59:16.802
At that point you can also use backward with a routing link.

00:59:16.802 --> 00:59:34.101
So the key difference there is that when you have just backward turned on, it means that it's tied to the status of the production order as a whole With a routing link you're going to associate on this operation step.

00:59:35.152 --> 00:59:45.706
You'd have the same routing link on your bill of material items and it will say when you finish this operation, that's when I want you to consume the inventory.

00:59:45.706 --> 00:59:47.030
So it could be all.

00:59:47.030 --> 00:59:53.871
At the end or during the process you can also do the same forward and backward associated to picks.

00:59:53.871 --> 00:59:56.958
So you can see there you've got a lot more.

00:59:56.958 --> 00:59:58.902
I call it like real time.

00:59:58.902 --> 01:00:04.684
It's not like when it actually happens, but it's like close enough, it's it's, but it's more.

01:00:04.684 --> 01:00:15.215
Throughout the process, over a couple of weeks or a couple of months, you're in stages and steps consuming inventory, and stages and steps you're outputting production.

01:00:15.215 --> 01:00:19.621
Um, you're tied to a step in process.

01:00:19.842 --> 01:00:20.324
Yeah, yeah.

01:00:21.271 --> 01:00:33.617
So you can have manual flushing, backward, flushing backward with router link codes flushing and forward flushing, and those all determine when the components get consumed and put into your working process.

01:00:33.617 --> 01:00:40.990
So for your inventory evaluation or your component tracking, you have a better control of your inventory.

01:00:40.990 --> 01:00:43.396
Whereas an assembly order is, I post it.

01:00:43.396 --> 01:00:44.599
It's done, that's it.

01:00:45.681 --> 01:00:45.902
Right.

01:00:45.902 --> 01:00:57.224
So if you have like a bunch of assemblies and you say, well, I start them, but then they're not done for a month, it's going to be an entire month before any of that inventory component is going to be consumed.

01:00:57.224 --> 01:01:05.702
So if you're doing like MRP planning, which it really does rely on a good, accurate on-hand quantity, that's too long.

01:01:05.702 --> 01:01:13.050
You can't wait an entire month after you've done something or used product to tell your system that it's been used.

01:01:13.050 --> 01:01:20.844
So with these flushing methods it allows you to be able to consume inventory more around the time that you're actually using it.

01:01:21.269 --> 01:01:24.481
And you can do the same thing with, like I said, labor time.

01:01:24.481 --> 01:01:31.382
So you could say, well, certain operations, I want to capture actual time.

01:01:31.382 --> 01:01:35.360
So someone's going to indicate this is when I started, this is when I finished.

01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:40.900
Or there might be certain operations where you're like, meh, that's just inspection, it's always a half an hour.

01:01:40.900 --> 01:01:45.887
I want a little bit of cost track, but I really don't need anybody to clock in and be that accurate.

01:01:45.887 --> 01:01:48.132
If it's 28 minutes or 35 minutes, I don't care.

01:01:48.132 --> 01:01:52.202
Then you can also put a flushing method on your work center.

01:01:54.465 --> 01:01:54.827
Excellent.

01:01:54.827 --> 01:02:04.831
One thing I was thinking of as you were talking about this, and you were talking about assembly or production, or producing in Business Central.

01:02:04.831 --> 01:02:07.036
Is there a way to do disassembly?

01:02:07.036 --> 01:02:32.855
So what happens if we produce a product that goes on our shelf and we either want to break it down because those components can be used in other products, or if a customer returns a product, there may be some value in the components that are part of that product to reproduce something, or if there's a defective output.

01:02:32.855 --> 01:02:35.291
So again, same thing we're making a desk.

01:02:35.291 --> 01:02:37.713
Go back to the example that Chris was talking about earlier.

01:02:37.733 --> 01:02:38.114
So again, same thing.

01:02:38.114 --> 01:02:38.856
We're making a desk.

01:02:38.856 --> 01:02:40.603
Go back to the example that Chris was talking about earlier.

01:02:40.603 --> 01:03:01.985
We're making a desk and we realize, you know, the desk may have a top and it may have legs and may have little rubber feet, but it gets produced and there's damage to the top Right.

01:03:02.005 --> 01:03:04.572
But we want to salvage the legs and the rubber feet because they're still intact and the way that they're fastened.

01:03:04.572 --> 01:03:07.559
We can, you know, in essence unscrew them and then use them for, else use them elsewhere, excuse me, or for another desk.

01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:12.989
Yeah, so again you've got like flexibility on that with the production order side, because when you do the output you can indicate a good output quantity.

01:03:12.989 --> 01:03:31.650
That's what I made, that's good, usable on hand, I can use it to ship and then you can indicate a scrap quantity and then in places like the output journal you can actually have it calculate for you what the or sorry, in the consumption journal, what it should consume as an expected quantity based on what was expected, which wouldn't include the scrap.

01:03:32.494 --> 01:03:47.958
Or you can have it calculate if you've already done the output and you've indicated that there was some scrap, and it will actually calculate a little bit more to consume, because it will look and say well, I assume that if you made 10 and two were bad, you needed enough components to make 12.

01:03:47.958 --> 01:04:03.313
But then you can go through those consumption journal lines and maybe, to your point, you can salvage some of them so you could change the quantities Like those things would be a lot easier to manage in a production order On an assembly.

01:04:03.313 --> 01:04:25.353
Like I said, you've kind of just made it or not, and you can't really go back after easily and say, oh, I want to add inventory back or I want to change what I consumed for just a component, for just an assembly item, like some of these things you can do, but they're just clunky and they're a workaround if you will right, like you're kind of manipulating it to make it work.

01:04:25.766 --> 01:04:29.811
I can add numbers together on a piece of paper or I could use a calculator.

01:04:29.811 --> 01:04:33.675
The calculator is much easier than a piece of paper.

01:04:33.675 --> 01:04:36.974
So I understand that what we're talking about.

01:04:36.974 --> 01:04:42.492
You can get things to work, but the more efficient way, it's more designed for it.

01:04:42.492 --> 01:04:44.097
Yeah yeah, I appreciate that.

01:04:44.097 --> 01:04:45.905
I appreciate that well.

01:04:45.905 --> 01:04:52.077
I'm learning a lot about production orders and assembly same this is good that's the goal I did.

01:04:52.237 --> 01:04:54.688
Um, I have done a couple presentations on it.

01:04:54.688 --> 01:05:00.731
That's why it is a good topic, because a lot of people do ask about it, because they don't know which one to use.

01:05:00.731 --> 01:05:10.856
And I mean I always say this, like the more you want to do inside the system, probably the more pages you have to set up and maintain, the more transactions maybe you have to do.

01:05:10.856 --> 01:05:14.956
So you do want to justify, like, what data am I capturing?

01:05:14.956 --> 01:05:22.557
Like sometimes you look at things you're like that'd be great, but if you're not doing it now, like a common example of that would be capacity planning.

01:05:22.557 --> 01:05:33.291
Right, people are like, oh, I want production orders because you know, down the line I really want to be able to schedule and capacity plan and see what's loaded to work centers and individual machine centers.

01:05:33.485 --> 01:05:46.030
But if they're not experiencing bottlenecks or they're not experiencing things where they go to produce something and they can't because they've got machine breakdowns, like maybe you just start with assemblies and then down the line you move to production orders.

01:05:46.070 --> 01:05:58.389
When you do find that you have set up and run times and you're actually going to use them and they're accurate and people do need to collect actual labor, like you could always move to it, need to collect actual labor, like you could always move to it.

01:05:58.389 --> 01:06:08.065
And one of the things I always say about assemblies and production with configuration worksheets and like being able to import and export data the structure of, let's say, an assembly bomb and a production bomb is very similar.

01:06:08.065 --> 01:06:25.070
So if you exported all your assembly bombs and then you could pretty easily paste that into a production bomb template and then just upload everything, what you're going to find is just your production BOM template has a lot more fields, right, like your calculation formula fields, or it has length, width, weight.

01:06:25.070 --> 01:06:27.315
You know those things because you need them.

01:06:27.315 --> 01:06:42.077
So sometimes it can be easier to start with assemblies, if you don't need subcontract, if you don't need advanced capacity planning, and then later down the line increase your license to a premium and just I'll call it migrate.

01:06:42.077 --> 01:06:54.097
You'd have to massage your data a little bit, but just migrate your assemblies over and then create the routings that you need, which, again, if you've got resources, is pretty easy no, that's that's a good

01:06:54.137 --> 01:07:05.036
that's awesome no, that's a good thing to look at because I like what you had mentioned and it goes back to something we spoke about when you were on with us towards the end of last year.

01:07:05.036 --> 01:07:18.097
Really, understanding the differences between the two can help your implementation, because there's a cost difference between the premium and the essentials license at this point.

01:07:18.097 --> 01:07:22.130
Is a cost between difference between the premium and the essentials license at this point?

01:07:22.130 --> 01:07:23.554
And the other key point that you had mentioned was the setup.

01:07:23.554 --> 01:07:27.951
Assembly orders are easier to set up and process than production.

01:07:27.951 --> 01:07:33.005
When I say easier, there's less to do so it's, it's if you're in, there's less to do.

01:07:33.025 --> 01:07:34.427
Yeah, if your business doesn't need, there's a cost to setting it up.

01:07:34.427 --> 01:07:36.610
Yes, if your business doesn't need all of that, there's a cost to setting it up.

01:07:36.731 --> 01:07:42.239
Yes, If your business doesn't need all of that detail, then assembly orders may be perfect.

01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:48.358
Where production orders, you can do the same thing in essence, but it has a lot more detail which may not be relevant to you.

01:07:48.358 --> 01:07:50.773
And I do like the point that you had mentioned.

01:07:50.773 --> 01:07:58.217
You can start off with assembly orders and then move to production orders relatively easy with configuration packages.

01:07:58.217 --> 01:08:07.489
So even if today you start off with assembly orders, you can grow into.

01:08:07.510 --> 01:08:08.871
I guess is grow the right word?

01:08:08.871 --> 01:08:10.092
No, I would say that Progress grow.

01:08:10.432 --> 01:08:15.916
Yeah, as your business evolves and you realize now I need the additional information, I can move over to production orders.

01:08:15.916 --> 01:08:32.328
Or, if there's not some clarity on which may be the best to fit for whatever reason, right, I'm not saying that if everybody understands the differences in an organization moving to use assembly orders or production orders, or even just a business central may not understand which is better.

01:08:33.032 --> 01:08:43.139
They could start with assembly order see if it meets their requirements or their needs and then easily move over to production orders without having to pay for that licensing and set up upfront to find out.

01:08:43.139 --> 01:08:49.197
They have to automate a lot of steps or do something that would have been done with assembly orders.

01:08:50.064 --> 01:09:05.889
Well, I was just going to say like one of the things I always kind of keep in the back of my mind as I'm implementing is you want people to prove they need something right, so to your point, you want to start simple and then prove that you need production like prove that you need more.

01:09:05.889 --> 01:09:12.615
So you start with assemblies where you know you can add items, you know you can add some resource time, you know you can add quantities that you need.

01:09:12.615 --> 01:09:15.068
You know you can do multi-level builds of material.

01:09:15.068 --> 01:09:18.912
You know you can associate them to items, you can build them to stock and production.

01:09:18.912 --> 01:09:24.720
You build that and then somebody's like but I really need to see my setup time and my run time.

01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:32.244
Or but I really need to capture that saw cutting is done, but this next operation is not done.

01:09:32.244 --> 01:09:50.255
Then you start to realize, oh okay, maybe assemblies are too simple and then again, migrating that over, it's just not a like, it's not like, it's no work, but it's very much transferable it may be easier to transfer it than to set it up.

01:09:50.756 --> 01:09:52.359
It's easier to transfer assembly orders.

01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:58.395
If you need production owners to set up, then to set up production orders and not need them maybe.

01:09:58.395 --> 01:10:02.729
Yeah, does my logic sound sound?

01:10:02.868 --> 01:10:06.534
yeah, I think I think to your point earlier.

01:10:06.534 --> 01:10:21.748
Just want to make sure that you know, when you do evolve, that there is a cost to set up and there is also a cost to maintain it as well, and there's also a cost to maintain it as well Is that.

01:10:22.389 --> 01:10:24.109
can you hear people laughing or talking?

01:10:24.109 --> 01:10:25.811
That was me.

01:10:25.811 --> 01:10:32.957
I hit that by mistake, I was like, okay, because I was like Chris, everyone's excited for what you're saying.

01:10:33.016 --> 01:10:35.398
Yeah, they're laughing at me, yeah.

01:10:35.417 --> 01:10:36.338
No, but there you go.

01:10:36.338 --> 01:10:38.340
But the, you brought this back.

01:10:41.765 --> 01:10:43.853
I think the thing is too, is that Hold on.

01:10:43.853 --> 01:10:44.314
I love that.

01:10:45.104 --> 01:10:51.476
Well, we have a soundboard and when we first switched to using this platform, I was using it all the time.

01:10:51.476 --> 01:10:58.193
If you go back to some of the episodes I used to do like the door knock and, like I used to, this is what we used to do before.

01:10:58.193 --> 01:10:59.274
We would let somebody in.

01:10:59.274 --> 01:11:00.416
I can't even see.

01:11:00.416 --> 01:11:01.277
This is my eyes.

01:11:01.277 --> 01:11:03.340
I really need to figure this out.

01:11:03.340 --> 01:11:09.033
Uh-oh, but we would do you.

01:11:09.033 --> 01:11:09.695
Don't remember that.

01:11:12.886 --> 01:11:14.529
You should do that when you have a special guest coming through.

01:11:14.529 --> 01:11:15.171
We have done that too.

01:11:15.190 --> 01:11:15.612
No, we have done that.

01:11:15.612 --> 01:11:17.376
So you have the door knocking Surprise guest.

01:11:17.376 --> 01:11:17.917
So we do this.

01:11:17.917 --> 01:11:21.479
I like it.

01:11:22.908 --> 01:11:23.429
Chris, who's at the door?

01:11:23.429 --> 01:11:23.970
Yeah, I don't know.

01:11:23.970 --> 01:11:25.555
Who did we invite this time?

01:11:27.167 --> 01:11:27.488
Let me see.

01:11:27.488 --> 01:11:28.551
I'm going to walk over and see.

01:11:34.515 --> 01:11:34.675
Oh.

01:11:34.875 --> 01:11:35.756
Guys, this is a lot.

01:11:35.756 --> 01:11:36.278
Hold on, hold on.

01:11:37.305 --> 01:11:38.067
Yeah.

01:11:39.769 --> 01:11:40.449
Oh, look who it is.

01:11:40.449 --> 01:11:42.713
It's jen, all the way from the north.

01:11:43.094 --> 01:11:45.377
Welcome hi, hello.

01:11:45.958 --> 01:11:58.509
Thanks for having me take a bow and it didn't play out really well, because we start doing videos, it's like oh, they're not really walking.

01:11:58.609 --> 01:12:05.172
Yeah, then people are like trying to compete what they're seeing and hearing yeah do you have a joke for us?

01:12:05.172 --> 01:12:15.500
Oh gosh, I like do love jokes, but I a they're dirty and b on the spot, like, like, what are you?

01:12:15.500 --> 01:12:17.496
Because, you well, you, um, you love, like the canada us thing.

01:12:17.496 --> 01:12:20.389
So if you Well, you love the Canada-US thing.

01:12:20.389 --> 01:12:27.208
So if you're Canadian when you go into the washroom and you're Canadian when you come out of the washroom, what are you while you're in the washroom?

01:12:28.934 --> 01:12:29.135
What.

01:12:29.536 --> 01:12:30.016
European.

01:12:30.016 --> 01:12:32.591
See, it's a little dirty.

01:12:32.591 --> 01:12:35.676
See, that's what I wanted to do.

01:12:35.697 --> 01:12:43.201
That was good, that was really good that I wouldn't classify that as a dirty joke, just to let understand.

01:12:43.220 --> 01:12:46.530
Let you know a little dirty, it's potty joke, that's.

01:12:46.690 --> 01:12:57.577
That's the definition joke and it's dirty because it's potty, but it's not what I, what americans call dirty and maybe what you canadians that's what I'm saying it's a canadian, I forget.

01:12:57.577 --> 01:13:05.826
The canadians are a little more sensitive, so right, yeah, sure sometimes well, I hope I never go to canada.

01:13:06.065 --> 01:13:11.457
I probably will never get out like I'm steering you off, wanting to come to canada.

01:13:11.497 --> 01:13:18.436
It's horrible no, no, they'll stop you at the border unless you become the 51st, I will say no.

01:13:18.497 --> 01:13:33.317
No, I say all this in jest, and I think anybody who knows me knows that I like to have a lot of fun and sensei yes, I appreciate that and that's what I say, for I have no distaste for canada at all.

01:13:33.317 --> 01:13:37.167
I have gone to canada before, by the way where'd you go, montreal?

01:13:37.207 --> 01:13:37.247
oh?

01:13:37.268 --> 01:13:37.707
I love montreal.

01:13:37.728 --> 01:13:39.791
That's a great place to go, but I had only gone to Canada before, by the way, where'd you go?

01:13:39.791 --> 01:13:40.470
Montreal, oh, I love Montreal.

01:13:40.470 --> 01:13:41.493
That's a great place to go.

01:13:41.972 --> 01:13:48.581
But I had only gone to Montreal when I first started consulting, because we had an implementation in Montreal.

01:13:48.581 --> 01:13:53.636
So that was when did I start doing this?

01:13:55.966 --> 01:13:58.171
Back before, I think both you and Chris were born.

01:13:58.171 --> 01:14:00.657
Oh, come on, look that means it's working, we were probably in high school.

01:14:02.885 --> 01:14:04.921
I've been doing this since 1998.

01:14:04.942 --> 01:14:06.609
Yeah, okay, so I don't know.

01:14:06.609 --> 01:14:07.724
So I was born, yes.

01:14:08.064 --> 01:14:10.412
You just weren't implementing Business Central.

01:14:11.253 --> 01:14:13.251
I wasn't yet Not thinking about it.

01:14:13.251 --> 01:14:16.956
So where did you get time to actually tour around and see it?

01:14:16.956 --> 01:14:21.087
Because I know sometimes we don't spend a lot of time actually touring the place that we got.

01:14:21.087 --> 01:14:24.650
Is that the point where, with video, conferencing screen sharing and.

01:14:24.690 --> 01:14:43.796
Internet connectivity you can get a lot of things done remotely.

01:14:43.796 --> 01:14:45.385
Sometimes you may need to go on site.

01:14:45.385 --> 01:14:56.578
It is also beneficial to go on site, sometimes even at least once, through an implementation, because the individual is doing the consultation at least can visualize properly the layout of an implement.

01:14:56.578 --> 01:14:58.301
You know the layout of what they're talking about.

01:14:58.301 --> 01:15:12.324
So if I, you know we're talking about manufacturing or producing product, if I can visualize what somebody's doing, then when we're having conversations, one it helps me understand what they're talking about because I can physically see what they're doing.

01:15:12.324 --> 01:15:42.927
And the big thing that I've learned going through, because I've started off conversations, then I've gone site after we started I understood more what they were talking about, with some challenges based upon what they had in their environment, whereas when you're just talking to somebody you may say it's not that difficult, you know, but then you actually look and you physically see exactly and then you realize now I remember distinctly saying to someone I completely understand what you were saying, why that was impossible.

01:15:43.850 --> 01:15:44.131
Right.

01:15:44.411 --> 01:15:49.949
It was impossible physically, it wasn't impossible systemically, and that's some of the challenges.

01:15:49.949 --> 01:15:57.458
Being a consultant, if you get to physically see, is beneficial, but you don't necessarily need to sit there and say, okay, well, now I'm going to train you and show you how to do a production order.

01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:06.247
You can do some of that stuff Well that's such an interesting like thing too is the like what do you need in your ERP versus what's physically happening on the shop floor?

01:16:06.247 --> 01:16:19.608
Like, and then too, like, depending on what your shop floor looks like or how things are structured or laid out, like sometimes it's like you could put that into your ERP but really, based on the proximity or based on like other factors, you just don't really need it.

01:16:19.608 --> 01:16:35.114
I find the other thing too is that when you go on site now we do a lot remotely but we have kind of debated, like are there key times where we really should go and do, like during kickoff or during the pilot, just to, like you said, collect what I will call like the oxygen stuff?

01:16:35.114 --> 01:16:39.307
Right, so when you are talking and you're like, hey, what do you do?

01:16:39.307 --> 01:16:40.252
What's your process?

01:16:40.252 --> 01:16:42.725
They explain it and they try their best to think of everything.

01:16:42.845 --> 01:16:47.386
But let's say you go on site and you're like I always say to people pretend like you won the lottery.

01:16:47.386 --> 01:16:49.372
You're moving to Fiji and I'm your replacement.

01:16:49.372 --> 01:16:53.247
I'm just going to sit here and watch what you do and I'm just going to ask questions as I go.

01:16:53.247 --> 01:16:56.872
Well, they'll do things and they'll be explaining as they go.

01:16:56.872 --> 01:17:06.715
Well, I enter this and I do that, well then they'll do a series of stuff that they don't talk about and because to them it's like well obviously I do that right, Like that's so obvious.

01:17:06.836 --> 01:17:13.936
But it's like for me, I've been doing consulting for, like you, like a long time over 16 years, so it's like that's not super obvious.

01:17:13.936 --> 01:17:18.979
That's actually kind of different what you're doing there, like I need you to explain a little bit better.

01:17:18.979 --> 01:17:23.042
Are you doing that because a customer asked you is that a business rule?

01:17:23.042 --> 01:17:26.643
Is it just because that's what somebody showed you and that's how you've always done it like?

01:17:26.643 --> 01:17:31.935
So when you see it, it just asks like different questions in your mind.

01:17:31.935 --> 01:17:32.436
You hit.

01:17:32.578 --> 01:17:33.527
You hit that perfectly.

01:17:33.527 --> 01:17:35.054
I will go back to why we got that.

01:17:35.054 --> 01:17:48.140
But it even goes back with even acronyms because we we were doing that ourselves with some of the conversation, making the assumption everybody can fill in the blanks and know what a BOM is, instead of it being B-O-M Bill of Material, or like we talked about the ISV.

01:17:48.140 --> 01:18:20.864
So that on-site sometimes can be helpful with technology, with the video conferencing and I promote video with everybody because if I'm talking with you I can take a look at your reaction right the first part is to see if one of you paying attention right, or do you have the look on your face of I really don't understand what this person is saying or doing and, as you had said, it goes back with the being able to physically see what someone's doing, you can pick up a lot more detail.

01:18:20.965 --> 01:18:21.930
So there is value to it.

01:18:21.930 --> 01:18:23.233
Is there value to be there all the time?

01:18:23.233 --> 01:18:24.925
It's debatable.

01:18:24.925 --> 01:18:30.231
But to go back to what you're saying, that's what I had said earlier on Cause I started working with this before the internet.

01:18:30.231 --> 01:18:35.113
As I say, right, we used to have to use dial up with a remote control Like the internet, wasn't?

01:18:35.113 --> 01:18:43.288
You know, the internet's been around obviously longer, but it wasn't mainstream for businesses and for remote connectivity and teleconferencing it was.

01:18:43.288 --> 01:18:44.310
You know, if you had.

01:18:44.310 --> 01:18:45.112
It was quite costly.

01:18:45.112 --> 01:18:52.588
But I just tell everybody I've been everywhere, but I've been nowhere Right, because when I first started I would go to New York almost weekly on the.

01:18:52.588 --> 01:18:57.556
And here we are all these years later and I can tell you I've never been to the Empire State Building.

01:18:57.556 --> 01:19:03.081
I've walked by it 3,000 times but you never take the moment.

01:19:03.100 --> 01:19:09.673
You never take the moment because, as a consultant, you get on the train, you go to a place, you go to the office.

01:19:09.673 --> 01:19:12.529
You eat lunch, you get out of the office.

01:19:12.529 --> 01:19:15.587
Usually you work late to maximize how much you can get out of your trip.

01:19:15.587 --> 01:19:16.529
You go to dinner.

01:19:16.529 --> 01:19:18.391
You go back to the room.

01:19:18.391 --> 01:19:28.926
You have to catch up on the stuff that you may have missed while you were gone emails and stuff like that.

01:19:28.926 --> 01:19:29.328
Then you go to bed.

01:19:29.328 --> 01:19:29.569
You wake up.

01:19:29.569 --> 01:19:30.372
You're tired because you had a long day.

01:19:30.372 --> 01:19:32.521
You may have to do a few emails or something before you go into the office.

01:19:32.521 --> 01:19:33.164
You eat breakfast.

01:19:33.164 --> 01:19:37.054
You go into the office, you have lunch, go back.

01:19:37.054 --> 01:19:39.525
Repeat again Next day.

01:19:39.525 --> 01:19:41.130
Repeat get back.

01:19:41.130 --> 01:19:43.976
Get on a plane, train, automobile, go home.

01:19:45.204 --> 01:19:53.317
You know, so you don't you know, a lot of times individuals don't take the opportunity to see anything other than a method of transportation, a hotel and an office.

01:19:54.225 --> 01:19:55.912
Well, you take advantage of that in conferences.

01:19:55.971 --> 01:20:03.773
Now, right, like to me, I do that now with conferences, yep, I try to get out as much as I can.

01:20:03.773 --> 01:20:10.152
Again, it depends on where the conference is how easy it is to get out and you know what the schedule is like.

01:20:10.152 --> 01:20:19.744
We just went to san antonio and you know, jen avoided us, but um no, I did not I went to take to go the river walk and all that other.

01:20:20.006 --> 01:20:23.132
You know the other the other type things that were close by.

01:20:23.132 --> 01:20:25.788
So I was able to at least say I walked the river walk.

01:20:25.788 --> 01:20:26.613
I was able to see it.

01:20:26.613 --> 01:20:39.596
I did the little boat tours to see the history I love that, that stuff right there is great for me the history that I love that too anywhere you go, like I was up in boston and I had someone come visit and I had never done it.

01:20:40.086 --> 01:20:57.511
You know this was many years ago but they had like the duck tours and I did it in cape cod in massachusetts and I also did it in boston and I knew a lot of history about boston and I even learned a lot of history while I was on the you always do, yeah they driving around, because you talk about some of the, just the uniqueness of the buildings and stuff.

01:20:57.511 --> 01:21:10.548
So anywhere I go now I want to try to do one of those what I call chris, and I talked about this too the historical type events, the best you know yeah, anyone who's doing conferences include those.

01:21:10.829 --> 01:21:15.064
I mean they did with san antonio but include those historical type things.

01:21:15.064 --> 01:21:18.831
I mean, it was even great going to the alamo, just as you know.

01:21:18.831 --> 01:21:20.592
It's just Same.

01:21:20.734 --> 01:21:21.956
I totally agree, like.

01:21:21.956 --> 01:21:27.496
So back, like you said, like we used to always go, and to your point you're tired, trying to maximize the visit.

01:21:27.496 --> 01:21:38.574
But I recently it's funny you guys say that because I did the same thing where I started to say I'm going to tack on an extra day, come in a day earlier, stay a day or two extra to see the city that I'm in.

01:21:38.574 --> 01:21:39.855
And it was the same thing.

01:21:39.855 --> 01:22:02.159
And with San Antonio, it was amazing because, like, I had a morning, I did the river walk, I read a book, I had a coffee and I'm like this is amazing, like saw the Alamo, was able to see it, and making it part of the like, making it part of the trips that you actually see it, because you don't know necessarily if you're ever going to be back there, right, and one of the things I'm a big fan of, that I love, and I've loved it forever, is the hop on, hop off bus tour.

01:22:02.905 --> 01:22:06.997
So I love those for your purpose, brad where you have the history.

01:22:07.524 --> 01:22:38.257
So basically it'll be like a double decker bus and you pay and they'll take you all around the city and usually there's different routes, but throughout the bus tour you've got headphones in nowadays, before it used to be somebody on a microphone and they're like you know, here you are in Manhattan, where the average rent is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and here you are and you can, if there's somewhere you want to see, like the empire state building or the statue of Liberty or whatever, you can get off, walk around, explore it, and then there's little pickup points where it'll pick you back up and you just keep going around.

01:22:38.704 --> 01:22:53.198
But what I have found is that, like you can do the same route like three times and you can learn something new every single time, because maybe you have a different instructor or they just can't tell you everything about every building in like three minutes that you're driving by.

01:22:53.198 --> 01:23:08.070
So you always learn so much and that's why I love those walking tours or bus tours for that purpose I agree with you and I learned the uh go, go ahead, I like chris, it's hard for him to get a word in with me, and brad isn't it?

01:23:08.752 --> 01:23:13.148
he's like I'm used to it you saying I talk too much I'm bad.

01:23:13.148 --> 01:23:14.010
I'm bad too.

01:23:14.069 --> 01:23:17.695
I love chris, we'll give you the moment continue, you speak.

01:23:21.510 --> 01:23:34.859
You guys are having a very Canadian moment no, you go, it's just a repeat it's all good continue with the technology today, I also appreciate the self guided as well like you're

01:23:34.878 --> 01:23:43.527
talking about with the buses, because I have done some self guided tours here and they have the points where you go through and you play and you have a narrator so you can go at your own pace.

01:23:43.527 --> 01:23:48.478
But there's some attractions I spend more time at because I like to see.

01:23:48.478 --> 01:23:55.298
I did like I did the edison and ford estates tour, which was self-guided and that's what it was is.

01:23:55.298 --> 01:23:58.029
You went to certain points and they said, okay, now play point number one.

01:23:58.029 --> 01:24:20.328
But some of it had so much for you to take in, visibly right, that if you were to hear the, the, what the narrator was saying about the history of the location or or the point of the tour where you were on, you would have missed a lot of the intricate details, like when you're looking in the house and you're seeing just the old beds and stuff like that.

01:24:20.349 --> 01:24:21.712
It was just I don't know.

01:24:21.813 --> 01:24:30.573
We're just digressing and I know, I feel like I shouldn't talk anymore no, no, I'm just kidding, it's just we're having a moment.

01:24:31.694 --> 01:24:37.448
Well, miss jen, mrs jen yes, thanks for yes thank you for taking the time to speak with us.

01:24:37.448 --> 01:24:39.591
We do appreciate your time.

01:24:39.591 --> 01:24:40.774
We do appreciate your support.

01:24:40.774 --> 01:24:46.560
We do appreciate you also sharing the information about production orders versus assembly orders with us.

01:24:46.560 --> 01:24:57.471
Hopefully I cleared some questions for any that may have had questions, or even taught everybody something new about it as well.

01:24:57.471 --> 01:25:07.676
I know I have a better understanding of production orders and assembly orders and have a good idea of which questions to ask when trying to determine which to use and the benefits of each of them.

01:25:08.618 --> 01:25:18.009
If anyone has any additional questions or needs additional assistance with the business, central implementation or manufacturing portion of the implementation, what is the best way to get a hold of you?

01:25:19.168 --> 01:25:22.610
So they can go to saberlimitedcom.

01:25:22.610 --> 01:25:24.551
All my contact information's on there.

01:25:24.551 --> 01:25:30.376
I'm on LinkedIn, just Jen Claridge, so I think you guys have a bio now of the speakers, which is great.

01:25:30.376 --> 01:25:32.976
So my LinkedIn connection is up there.

01:25:32.976 --> 01:25:35.759
Those would probably be the two best ways.

01:25:35.759 --> 01:25:43.443
And then my email is just jennc at saverlimitedcom and I love sharing my knowledge.

01:25:43.443 --> 01:25:52.153
Like I said, I've done this presentation at a few of the different conferences because people really did seem interested in the topic and I think it was helpful to kind of see.

01:25:52.153 --> 01:26:07.055
So if anybody even wants like a PowerPoint sort of this, where I actually do like a walk through of creating the exact same order through as an assembly and through as a production order, I love to just kind of like help people and just share my knowledge.

01:26:07.055 --> 01:26:16.752
So if you wanted to reach out and just get more information, like I said, people have been very generous to help me understand concepts better and I'm happy to do that for others as well.

01:26:17.426 --> 01:26:27.085
I appreciate that and I think I do think that sounds interesting to have a comparison of setting up an item in assembly order and setting up an item in a bill of material and processing.

01:26:27.246 --> 01:26:31.060
That is a great way to see it and, like you, chris and I feel the same way.

01:26:31.060 --> 01:26:33.667
We share a lot of information because of that.

01:26:33.667 --> 01:26:38.596
I mean some people have always shared for me and it's almost at the point where it's time to give back.

01:26:38.596 --> 01:26:45.230
Speaking of presentations, will you be going anywhere soon for presenting any conferences, user groups or anything?

01:26:45.671 --> 01:26:50.069
So there's a yeah user group in February for the Dynamic Communities user group.

01:26:50.069 --> 01:26:52.675
I know we've put in the call for speakers.

01:26:52.675 --> 01:26:59.898
I usually speak at DynamicsCon summit directions I have the last couple years anyway so I've submitted.

01:26:59.898 --> 01:27:01.488
I haven't yet heard back.

01:27:01.488 --> 01:27:09.103
I don't think that they've selected the speakers, but I'll be at most of the same conferences that you guys probably will be, In February.

01:27:09.122 --> 01:27:10.167
Which user group are you going?

01:27:11.430 --> 01:27:11.712
to.

01:27:11.712 --> 01:27:13.118
I think it's just a virtual.

01:27:13.118 --> 01:27:22.895
You know how they have the Dynamics Community monthly virtual user groups that everyone can connect to, so I offered to do one on data decisions.

01:27:22.895 --> 01:27:30.920
So I'm going to talk about just like different ways to be able to use the data in your system to analyze, like errors and troubleshoot and fix data.

01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:36.617
There's a lot of different, like configuration worksheets and edit in Excel and packages, and what are the differences?

01:27:37.097 --> 01:27:37.599
Very cool.

01:27:38.885 --> 01:27:40.350
Yeah, I think that's great wherever I can.

01:27:40.412 --> 01:27:53.197
So if you guys have ideas too on things, I was thinking about starting up a little like blog or youtube channel of just things, because I find there's like these quick little hitter things where people are like, yeah, I don't know, I'm I'm thinking about it.

01:27:53.197 --> 01:28:00.399
So if you guys, you know, have any ideas, but just the idea of like quick little hitter things on things, where it's like I just want to see it.

01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:03.734
You know, I love to share my knowledge in any way that I can.

01:28:04.704 --> 01:28:07.734
So you can probably do in smaller pieces and smaller pieces.

01:28:08.246 --> 01:28:12.854
We'll talk with you after, not today, but I will follow up with a conversation on that.

01:28:14.006 --> 01:28:15.712
I have over dinner in Vegas.

01:28:15.953 --> 01:28:28.432
Well, no before that, because I've been working on putting something together for that portion of it and that user group meeting that you're talking about, the virtual user group meeting, is February 20th at I think it's 1300 Eastern time.

01:28:29.627 --> 01:28:32.051
I believe so, yeah, usually two hours.

01:28:32.125 --> 01:28:39.509
I know I shared it the other day and you had it as well, and if you're presenting there, I know I already uh uh elected to attend that.

01:28:39.509 --> 01:28:40.953
So I have that on my calendar as well.

01:28:40.953 --> 01:28:58.319
So I'm looking forward to seeing your presentation and other than that, I think I'll see you in Vegas, hopefully, hopefully, we all can make it there, uh yeah it'd be great, and we can uh get you the um food truck meal, that uh meal that we promised you.

01:28:59.546 --> 01:29:00.451
That would be awesome.

01:29:00.484 --> 01:29:01.734
Other than that, happy new year.

01:29:01.734 --> 01:29:02.965
Thank you again for your time.

01:29:02.965 --> 01:29:06.814
We look forward to talking with you again soon, Ciao ciao, yes you too.

01:29:06.814 --> 01:29:07.815
Take care, bye, bye.

01:29:07.815 --> 01:29:16.792
Thank you, chris, for your time for another episode of In the Dynamics Corner Chair, and thank you to our guests for participating.

01:29:17.085 --> 01:29:18.591
Thank you, brad, for your time.

01:29:18.591 --> 01:29:22.055
It is a wonderful episode of Dynamics Corner chair.

01:29:22.055 --> 01:29:25.555
I would also like to thank our guests for joining us.

01:29:25.555 --> 01:29:28.594
Thank you for all of our listeners tuning in as well.

01:29:28.594 --> 01:29:46.951
You can find Brad at developerlifecom that is D-V-L-P-R-L-I-F-E dot com, that is D-V-L-P-R-L-I-F-E dot com, and you can interact with them via Twitter D-V-L-P-R-L-I-F-E.

01:29:46.951 --> 01:29:56.475
You can also find me at Mattalinoio, m-a-t-a-l-i-n-o dot I-O, and my Twitter handle is Mattalino16.

01:29:56.475 --> 01:30:00.154
And you can see those links down below in the show notes.

01:30:00.154 --> 01:30:01.510
Again, thank you everyone.

01:30:01.510 --> 01:30:03.091
Thank you and take care.
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Jenn Claridge

Vice President of ERP at Sabre Limited

A little history about me - early 2000 I worked with a company to migrate their old, DOS based system, to an updated ERP solution. There were in the manufacturing space and needed to find a home for all the information in their heads and in their filing cabinets! This equipped me with various hands on experience using many of the modules which I've leveraged in my career. I had a natural curiosity and instinct which made me their go to for process improvement and procedures.

I have been working with ERP as a manufacturing consultant since 2008 using a variety of ERP solutions including GP, NAV and Business Central. My expertise is Manufacturing in all types outside of batch processing.

Sabre offers fixed fee Manufacturing implementation services and is growing rapidly each year. We have helped customers learn the ERP including best industry practices, identify gaps and design customizations if needed.

In my spare time I am raising an incredible teenage son with grey hairs coming in by the minute due to age or having a teenager - unsure the root cause as of now ;)

I live in the country in an 1883 schoolhouse where I have taken to rescuing feral cats and working with a local agency to find them fur-ever homes.

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