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Welcome everyone to another episode of Dynamics Corner.
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I'm your OKS co-host, chris.
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And this is Brad.
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This episode was recorded on November 15th 2024.
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Chris, chris, chris, welcome to the world's OKS.
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Episode of the podcast.
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And I'm okay with that.
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And I'm okay with that too, and who else is also okay with it is the amazing guest that we had the opportunity to speak with today, mr Sean Doerr.
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Hey Good afternoon, look who it is.
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Are you there?
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I'm here, hello.
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Hello how are you doing?
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Did you just knock?
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Did you knock on the door like you wanted to come in.
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You were letting me in you gotta, let me in.
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We're letting you in.
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I'm doing something very important, right now you have your Rubik's Cube.
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I just threw my fidget spinner across the room.
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It was frustrating.
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I just threw my fidget spinner across the room.
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It was frustrating.
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Why Was it making you fidgety?
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Yeah it was.
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I thought I was supposed to help.
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I just said help me Depends.
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I used to have a fidget spinner.
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I'd have it somewhere.
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I used to wear it underneath my hat.
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I'd spin it and put it underneath my hat and see how well I did I was waiting, so I did well.
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So did you solve the cube.
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Yes, I did sir.
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That's impressive, very nice.
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It's a little fun I take one with me everywhere.
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Let's add some applause.
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right there it's well-deserved Cue the applause.
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Oh, I guess we're not going with special effects.
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I forgot where that media bar is.
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We had it, but it's gone.
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Post-edit, post-edit, yeah, post edit.
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Yes, yes, we have a media soundboard that I used to mess with at the beginning, but now it's gone, right, well, it's not gone, I just don't use it anymore.
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The toy is worn off.
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How are you doing?
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I'm doing great better than I deserve.
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How about you?
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I'm doing well.
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I like that better than I deserve, you know every time I talk with you, it's when you're one of those like I don't know what you're going to say and I don't mean that in a bad way, because you just always crack me up.
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So it's like you start saying something like my favorite is come on, give me more.
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You know, when you say something like that.
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But before we get into the conversation, would you mind telling everyone who's listening a little bit about yourself in?
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the dynamic space vice president at SA Global, which is a Microsoft partner, and just somebody who likes to have a good time and share what I've learned about the space.
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I'm recently really excited about Copilot, but that's maybe something we can get into a little later.
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I have been in the space for 25 plus years and literally love every minute of it, and that's probably what.
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What keeps me motivated the most is I love who who is in our space, the people, the end users.
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I love working with Microsoft and the technology.
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And yeah, that's a little bit about me.
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I'm in South Carolina, I live in South Carolina and I like to fish.
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What else Take long walks on the beach.
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No, hold hands in the mountains.
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I don't like to do that.
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You like to fish like lake or Lake Salt water, okay.
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I spend a lot of time on the lake, whether that's cruising around on the pontoon or fishing or water sporting with my family, but fishing is something that I thoroughly enjoy.
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Don't get to do near as much of it as I would like to, but that's just the reality.
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Small bass, Largemouth bass We've got stripers on this lake that I live on, so they can get pretty big, but generally those are for other people far better than I am.
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I'm catching a large amount of bass.
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Can you take us out on the boat?
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Yeah, come on.
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Let's go the pontoon See the pontoon is the way to go because I see these boats, even out in the ocean or wherever, and unless you have a huge yacht, I think a pontoon boat would be great because it's flat and it's larger, so you could put a table, you could have more people and you don't have to like go around the curves and the seats and go around.
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It's just like and just coast for us old guys, you can do all this stuff.
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You can do all this stuff, you can tube on it.
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You can wakeboard off of it, you can fish, you can just relax.
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I would work off I'd have a nice little desk during the summer many fridays um, where I am uh taking calls uh, while my, my wife is cruising us over to get lunch, or something like that.
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Yeah wow, that's awesome.
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I'm coming to South Carolina.
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The awards are fantastic yeah.
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And I would like to say again, congratulations for your 2024 BC All-Star Award at Summit.
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Didn't have the opportunity to speak with you since then, but congratulations Well-deserved.
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You're now, I think, an All-Star in every category, correct?
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Well, thanks, brad, not every, just two, but two is pretty remarkable.
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Congrats to you as well.
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We're in the same class 2024, along with David Laster Great company, that's for certain so pretty excited about that, very proud of it, and I appreciate you mentioning it Excellent, excellent.
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So many things that I wanted to talk with you about, and one of them may start with one of the sessions of yours that I saw at Summit, which was the Excel tips and tricks that you had, and I thought you did a great presentation.
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And it goes back to the conversation you and I had.
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I'll never forget because I say it's the way I speak, but I said it was actually a good session and you looked at me and you're like well, you're expecting it to be bad bar was set clearly very, very low, I think no, no, no, it's it's.
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I meant to actually not like I was surprised.
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I really enjoy your sessions and I appreciate what you do with those quick tips about.
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In this case, it was excel.
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Um, I think it was excel that I caught.
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I was at the business central.
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No, it's business central quick tips.
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You also had the excel one but the business central one I also went to, which I thought was great and I thought the dynamic you had was amazing as well.
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I've become a fan of the duo presentations like the dual, the dual presenters, because I think it adds a level of dynamic to the presentations where you have multiple personalities and going into it um and different perspectives.
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Yes, yeah, and it was a great session.
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And how did you get into speaking and do you still get nervous?
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Do I still get.
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I know you do a lot of sessions.
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Do I still get nervous?
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I don't think so.
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I think I get more.
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I wouldn't say it's nerves, I think it's more just my own expectations of what I'm giving to the community are really high and I wanted to.
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And it's not a chase of perfection, it's just I want people to find value.
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They're selecting, they're paying a lot of money to come to the event and they're selecting that time slot to come to something that I've put together.
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So I'm always just concerned am I giving the right content together?
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So I'm always just concerned Am I giving the right content?
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Am I organizing it in a way that people track what it is I'm trying to put together for them or with them?
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So not nervous, no, I have a fantastic time presenting.
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That's why I keep doing it.
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That's why I do so many, because it's a professional satisfaction for me.
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I really enjoy it.
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I get a lot.
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Keep doing it.
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That's why I do so many, because it's a professional satisfaction for me.
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I really enjoy it.
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I get a lot out of it.
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I challenge myself to learn new things so that I can share new things.
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But knowing that folks are motivated or empowered to do bigger and better things and save time for themselves.
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I get a lot of dopamine out of that.
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Save time for themselves.
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I get a lot of dopamine out of that and it's a bit personal or selfish in a way, but it's a complimentary selfish because I know folks are seemingly enjoying it and the afterwards you know the whole presentation afterwards I always feel like you know I put, I put, you know, a lot of heart and time into it.
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I usually feel really good about it.
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How I got started I don't remember specifically, but I remember going to a Jeep hug up in Seattle, very small compared to what things are today for the UGs, and I saw a couple sessions.
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John Lowther I don't know if you fellas know that name, but John Lowther was a sequel expert in the space on the GP side and he was very charismatic and I learned a ton from him and I always felt like I was leaving there kind of motivated to go learn more.
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And so there, there and started some of my, my, my desire to to kind of help others, but my speaking itself Kim Peterson, who was in charge of the GPUG at the time, had I asked a question during a session and then toward the end of the session I helped answer a question and she was in the session and she said you need to come speak.
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It wasn't an ask, it was a tell.
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And I was very nervous then.
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You know what do they call it?
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Imposter syndrome was very, very real.
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That's still real, especially with some of this new tech.
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But after that first time presenting I knew it was over for me because I had so much fun and that was 12 years ago maybe or so, and that's how I got started in presenting and it just kind of escalated from there.
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I was an end user at the time, I was an end user of escalated from there.
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I was an end user at the time, I was an end user, an accountant, a business analyst, and that actually is what kind of got me into my consulting career and later on to where I am today.
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So presenting not only gives me a lot of personal satisfaction I know it seems to help the community but it also has been a blessing for my career and my overall career satisfaction.
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Is that 2012?
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You were in Seattle Because I remember they had NavVog up here.
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We had the same, similar path.
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Then, sean, because I was also an end user and I'd answered a few questions during or after a session and I think it was Dave Weiser had come up to me and said you should speak.
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I was like, oh, I'll give it a shot.
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And then, ever since then, I enjoyed.
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It was Dave Weiser had come up to me and said you should speak.
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I was like, oh, I'll give it a shot.
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And then, ever since then, I enjoyed it and, like you said, it's an imposter syndrome.
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It's like man, what am I doing here?
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There's much better, smarter people teaching this thing, so yeah, that's awesome, it was 2012.
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I think you're right, it was 2012.
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And it was my first one.
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I think there was like a Vegas one right before then and then after maybe Tampa and then Reno, some order like that.
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But yeah, that was 2012.
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Yeah, wow.
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That imposter syndrome is real in a sense, and I also appreciate what you're saying about wanting to get the quality or feel like you're presenting the quality for the users.
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It is rewarding to present, I find.
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It find and, like you, I feel the same.
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I spend a lot of time putting the content together because I know and feel the same that people are taking their time to watch something that you present and also for all these conferences they're.
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They're sacrificing a lot, sometimes monetarily, time-wise, you know, taking some time away from family or whatever.
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So to be able to have a little fun, I try to have a little fun while presenting some information that they hopefully can gain something from.
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You do a great job with these quick tip sessions, which I will always like, and I'll probably start stealing.
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I've always wanted to do some.
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I've done a couple online like 30 tips in 30 minutes, but now I saw how great you did.
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I'm just going to be Sean Jr.
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There you go.
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Just call me SJ.
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Sj, what tips do you have for someone that may be looking to get into speaking?
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Well, I think it's real important to whatever you're talking about, whether that's you know, we talk about dynamics a lot but whatever you're talking about, it should be something that's natural and that you're passionate about, and that you can be yourself.
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When you're trying to be someone different or you know, prim and proper or buttoned up, and that's not you, if that's you, that's great.
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But when you try to be somebody else, it's not the same and it doesn't land to the audience the way that you you hope it would, because they they're there for the content but in maybe a weird bigger way, they're there for you, like you are.
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Their style, like attendees tend to gravitate toward individuals and their style.
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So that's my biggest tip is to make sure that, no matter what you speak about, that you're able to have fun, be.
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It's something you're passionate about and that you can be yourself.
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That's a great tip.
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That is a great tip, uh, and also you can be comfortable with yourself, because if you're trying to be something else, you get a little more nervous, and if you're not passionate or comfortable with the topic that, that nervousness will show through too.
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But if you can talk about it naturally, with the comfort, I think it's a little bit easier.
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There's so much.
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You mentioned gp.
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What.
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What is that gp thing?
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good people good oh, there's a good.
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That's a good way to put it so you started working with gp great Plains back in the day 25 years, so I think that was back when it was Great Plains prior to even the Microsoft acquisition.
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It was.
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I started Great Plains about 25 years ago at a non-for-profit in Pennsylvania and I was in the accounting department and they were looking for somebody to volunteer sort of for this AS400 to this other accounting software transition and I volunteered and, as they say, you know, the rest is history.
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That's really what got me hooked into what we do.
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You know helping businesses.
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You know implement ERP solutions Because at the time the technology was really impressive.
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You know accounting software up until that point was you know black background or green or green background, very, very binary feeling, bitmap, dot matrix printing.
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You know very old feeling feeling and this was new with windows.
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And you know databases that you could build on and that was very exciting.
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So as an end user there, that was pretty exciting to be able to.
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I don't know if he has a dog barking or not.
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She's going I don't hear any dogs.
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I hear it's just in your head I hear.
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Is it in my head?
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Yeah, that's in my head.
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Uh, no, ups must be here or amazon, one of the two, the um.
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It was very rewarding and exciting because I didn't know this technology and I was given a chance to explore things that I wouldn't have been able to explore before, like using a sql database and writing sql scripts and those kind of things.
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It really wasn't something an accountant would ever try to do, and here was this kind of career path that was maybe that I didn't know existed, but it blended the two worlds together because I didn't realize my curiosity for tech was the way it was until I started, until I started actually doing it, um, and so I.
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I stayed, you know, as an end user for many years and then I ventured off, built my own business that I used GP Great Plains for as the foundation of that business, more from the back end and then eventually on to other businesses and consulting.
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When did you make the transition to Business Central?
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Well, I mean, I guess I'm, I guess I'm, I don't know.
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Let me think for a second.
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I guess if there was a time when, maybe about 10 years ago, where I was feeling a little a board may not be the right word, but you know, I wanted to, I wanted some new challenge, that I'll say that.
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I wanted a new challenge and the organization that I was working for was purely gp um, you know dynamics, gp at the time, and I had decided I wanted to stay in this business.
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You know where I'm blending accountancy and business consulting with technology.
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So I looked around.
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I hadn't even heard of Navision.
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Actually, maybe I heard of it a little bit, but so I started to learn nav, kind of on my own.
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Oh yeah, to stop over that, stop over it.
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You stopped over at nav, stopped over.
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And it was a different.
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You know it's a different world.
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But I started to learn nav and I thought you know just kind of.
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I would try to.
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You thought it was better than GP.
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I definitely did not think that.
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I definitely did not think that you know, you're trained.
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You do.
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today, though You're trained, you're trained, you know.
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What you know is always going to feel better until you know something else thoroughly.
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But I, I did.
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I did learn nav and then one day, maybe about a year or two into that journey, I was at a, an event in anaheim, california, and um microsoft came and they presented I think they even called it like the new gp or something like that, and it was project madeira and I remember that madeira back in the project green project madeira I sat there in that room filled with you know 50, 60 gpers, and I saw this on the screen and I was like holy cow, I know what that is and that's nav.
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and I felt like in this moment like wow, did I, did I stumble upon something great here by kind of getting myself a head start into Nav as a GP person?
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Certainly the Nav people already knew this product, so it was just good fortune.
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I think it wasn't planned.
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I'd like to say it was planned, but it wasn't.
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And that is where I really started.
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Once it became aware that Microsoft was putting Project Madeira out and Net and a vision in the cloud or whatever Microsoft Finance, whatever they called it at the time, my employer at the time was welcoming that change.
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So it was kind of like I could.
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I could step out from the dark and and say I know a little bit about this and we built a nav.
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You know, then nav practice along with it.
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Excellent, that's probably about eight years ago, I think.
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So are you still working with GP today, or are you primarily Business Central?
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Well, we certainly have.
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I certainly work with businesses who are using GP.
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At the business that I work at, sa Global, we have a GP practice and we've got a GP customer base and we also have a separate practice for Business Central with the Business Central customer base.
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So we definitely support GPs often in the future, as long as they find it valuable, but we're also, you know, giving them the education and the exposure to what Business Central is like, because it's a remarkable tool, as you both know.
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Oh, business Central.
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It's a remarkable tool, as you both know.
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Oh, business Central.
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People think I'm in a cult when I talk about Business Central and the community and how great it is.
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You're in some sort of cult or something I'm like.
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No, I'm just, I'm like you.
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I haven't switched products, but I made a career out of working with Navision whatever name you want to give it up to Business Central.
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But as we're talking about your journey from GP to Business Central and you have the opportunity to work with customers from both GP and Business Central technologies, obviously everybody's aware of the announcement that Microsoft made just prior to Summit in October of 2024 about the future of business, excuse me, about the future of GP, the future of Business Central.